Best CCR in 2025-2030 Rebreather Markets

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1- What do you guys think is the best CCR manufactured by big companies and will be available in 2025-2030 rebreather markets for technical/ professional divers?

2- Does anyone have experience with the Dräger FGT 5400 or any other CCR model from big companies
available for purchase and training for technical/ professional divers?

We are screening the global market in search for all CCR models currently available from companies large enough in size, employ more than 1,000-1,500 people and report sales of more than $200-300 million. Example of such companies can be anything like:
  • Dräger. German company with operations in 190 countries worldwide, employs 16,000 people and reports sales of more than $4 billion
  • Head Sport GmbH. American-Austrian company of Mares, SSI, Liveaboard.com, and their original Head brand of winter sports, employs 2,500 people and reports sales of more than $700 million
  • Scubapro of Johnson Outdoors. Medium-size family business with operations in 24 locations worldwide, employs 1,400 people and reports sales of more than $315 million

3- How to find instructors for the Dräger FGT 5400 unit in coming few years?

4- What about rEvo III?

According to Wikipedia, Dräger Dolphin is also made in Germany and widely available for professional divers but is not a full CCR model. But the rEvo III is a Dräger Dolphin in a full CCR version. rEvo III is made in Belgium, operated by Head Sport GmbH which is big enough for us. This model is already CE certified so training for this unit will hopefully be available around the world.

Any info about rEvo III comparing to Dräger FGT 5400 would be greatly appreciated.
 
Why? And how many units do you need?

Posting for the sake of following the discussion. What you want doesn’t exist or has other notable flaws. You’ll find the units used by most militaries and contractors come from much smaller companies. If you yourself are large enough, you could probably have something handled directly.
 
Do you have specific use cases that you’re refining a search for?
Can we know more about the use case(s)?

What activity is being carried out, at what depth ranges, conditions, duration…?

or is this a meta analysis?

I doubt that any rebreather maker (not parent company of such maker, like HEAD to the revo) except for Drager has employees in that range
But Dräger is also in a wider range of life support devices, not just diving equipment… medical equipment to firefighting breathing equipment to.. mostly military rebreathers

Head owns Mares, that owns revo; but dive equipment is a small fraction of their size and revenue values; but revo is in turn a “big name”: avoid the Mares SCR rebreather like the plague tho
Oh they also own the certifying body: SSI

Scubapro does nothing on the rebreather front; the only product they have related remotely to that is their Dive computers that have a CCR mode (tracking, no monitor or control)

JJ is a “small” company but a huge operation; AP as well.. well this set is big actually.. Divesoft, ISC..

KISS is now part of a bigger diving equipment company; XDEEP, maybe that sums up to ~1k employees 🤷🏽‍♀️

Edit: come to think of it, JFD might be the closest fit; they are the parent company of Fathom (rebreathers), they also make commercial/military rebreathers; and they make ANSTI machines that test out regulators and rebreathers; among other ventures
 
🤷🏽‍♀️

Edit: cone to think of it, JFD might be the closest fit; they are the parent company of Fathom (rebreathers), they also make commercial/military rebreathers; and they make ANSTI machines that test out regulators and rebreathers; among other ventures

Huh? Are you talking about this Fathom Home Page - Fathom Dive Systems ?
I didn’t know there was another Fathom rebreather or that there was a company behind Charlie.

Either way, it gets my nod for the recommendation, really love my Fathom.
 
Huh? Are you talking about this Fathom Home Page - Fathom Dive Systems ?
I didn’t know there was another Fathom rebreather or that there was a company behind Charlie.

Either way, it gets my nod for the recommendation, really love my Fathom.
no you’re absolutely right; I mixed up the 2
Fathom systems (the one owned by JFD) works in ROVs, comm systems…
But JFD itself makes rebreathers

and Fathom dive systems, well.. rebreathers 😅


And I agree Fathom rebreathers are quite cool
You saved me from disseminating false info 😅🥲
I read somewhere earlier that JFD acquired Fathom Systems and didn’t check if it was or wasn’t tge same company 🤦🏽‍♀️
 
KISS is now part of a bigger diving equipment company; XDEEP, maybe that sums up to ~1k employees 🤷🏽‍♀️

Thanks, XDEEP employs only 5 employees according to their page. Yes, Head and Dräger are the two companies match our size criteria from the few names you mentioned.
 
We are screening the global market in search for all CCR models currently available from companies large enough in size, employ more than 1,000-1,500 people and report sales of more than $200-300 million.

@Mas. - what problem are you trying to solve? I don't want to disappoint you so quickly, but the criteria you've outlined in the first post excludes all rebreather manufacturers. Rebreather market is small. While there are large conglomerates with subsidiaries manufacturing rebreathers, rebreather product lines are not typical money makers. Take a look at Dräger's recent financial statement - rebreathers are nowhere there.

Also, large company does not mean longevity. If a product line does not perform, a company may sell or cut it.
 
@Mas. - what problem are you trying to solve? I don't want to disappoint you so quickly, but the criteria you've outlined in the first post excludes all rebreather manufacturers.

The main problem i am trying to solve is to identify which specfic CCR will be offered by big companies in 2025, if any.
 
None that you know of, that is ok. This is why we ask each other here. Buy yes there are multiple big companies offering rebreathers. I was able to identify at least two so far with a simple question in this great ScubaBoard forum. Thanks to @iain/hsm who named Dräger. And thanks to @stuartv who named Head Sports. Both are big companies offering rebreathers as I explained in my original post. I am searching for any other companies might be there along with these two I was able to find so far, if any.
 
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