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Boogie711:
Darn right we are. And I wonder how your buddy feels about the fact that you are now hogging HIS regulator in the event of a problem because you unplugged your backup regulator.

And by the way - there is no such thing as "backup life support gear." You only have one life. It's all life support gear.

That's it! What we need to go along with these equipment configurations is a backup life. See? Simple. problem solved!
 
or nine, in Pipedope's case...
 
That's it! What we need to go along with these equipment configurations is a backup life. See? Simple. problem solved!
Can you get those on Ebay?
 
nwdiver2:
My backup if all my gear fails (my unplugged Air2 and my primary second stage, which is unlikely)

Your unplugged your Air-2?

What do you plan on breathing when your buddy comes over and grabs your primary?

nwdiver2:
we are diving with a highly trained comparably equipped buddy are we not?

When I'm diving locally, I know who I'm diving with, and it works out great.

When I'm out of town on vacation, I'm diving with whoever else decided to sign up for the boat. My last "vacation buddy" hadn't been diving in more than 3 years and had equipment that looked like it needed service since Nixon was president.

A buddy is nice, but in the end, nobody is responsible for you, except you.

Terry


nwdiver2:
My backup if all my gear fails (my unplugged Air2 and my primary second stage, which is unlikely) is the close contact I maintain with my buddy, we are diving with a highly trained comparably equipped buddy are we not?
 
If I had a gear failure I abort the dive, so my buddy and I are slowly ascending together. He still has his primary and backup I have my primary, three points of access for 2 divers on the trip to the surface. I see that as a safe action and plan it that way. In 4500 dives I have never had a primary reg fail, but I still maintain my backup system as if my buddy’s life depended on it; as it does, he get my primary and I use my Air2.
 
I was asking what your buddy does in case his equipment fails, not yours.

Based on my reading of your message, you have one first stage and one second stage.

Your buddy has one first stage, one second stage and some sort of alternate (air-2/octo).

Assuming I read your message correctly, If you have a failure, there are now 2 divers and 2 air sources (your buddy's primary and alternate), which is fine.

If he has an OOA failure, you now have 2 divers and one air source (your primary). Who gets to breathe?


Terry

nwdiver2:
If I had a gear failure I abort the dive, so my buddy and I are slowly ascending together. He still has his primary and backup I have my primary, three points of access for 2 divers on the trip to the surface. I see that as a safe action and plan it that way. In 4500 dives I have never had a primary reg fail, but I still maintain my backup system as if my buddy’s life depended on it; as it does, he get my primary and I use my Air2.
 
This was about the use of an Air2 as an alternate second stage. The thought is I have unplugged my Air2 due to a problem with it filling my BC, in doing so I no longer have an alternate air source, my buddy has both of his second stages operating I have lost one I still have one. We call the dive and ascend.

Yes if his first stage fails he approaches me and takes my primary I pick up my Air2 and we ascend. If I or my buddy had a gear malfunction I call the dive and ascend.
 
nwdiver2:
This was about the use of an Air2 as an alternate second stage. The thought is I have unplugged my Air2 due to a problem with it filling my BC, in doing so I no longer have an alternate air source, my buddy has both of his second stages operating I have lost one I still have one. We call the dive and ascend.

Yes if his first stage fails he approaches me and takes my primary I pick up my Air2 and we ascend. If I or my buddy had a gear malfunction I call the dive and ascend.

And when a direct ascent isn't practical?

All of your defense lines are basically saying "Yeah, it's not too great, but as much as I can figure, it's not going to kill me, so I tolerate it."

Again, no thanks. All for the sake of removing one single hose? Puh-leeze. :icon15_2:
 
Because opinions differ doesn’t make them wrong. If I enter an overhead environment I am fully prepared to carry out the dive safely. I don’t dive my twins and full redundant deep wreck system on a Sunday in the Gulf Islands taking photos at 60ft. That would be just too gung ho.

The proper tool for the proper job I have learned over years of diving.
 

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