Bashing Each other, It is not necessary. I seem to have done it then I apologize.

[beachdivequeenbelam]

I thought the idea of using a bungee with 2 loops, one round the neck and one round the mouthpiece, is that if necessary you can just pull the mouthpiece through the smaller bungee loop in order to donate the reg.
Trying to do this with surgical tube cable-tied to the mouthpiece either sounds like a quick way to pull the mouthpiece off or loose a few teeth when the reg slips out of the hand of whoever is pulling it.

Which do you guys think is best?

RIght now I have clips on my BC that have bungee on them and I put my primary reg hose through the one and it has an octo holder too. I also clip my console which is my computer to my BC as well unless it is in my hand. I am doing these things right? To keep it from dangling. I try to be as enviormentally friendly as I can in regards to my equipment interacting with the enviroment. Is there anything else I can do or anything that would be better? In your opinion?

Thanks
Bridget

 

[HammerNoMore]

I thought the idea of using a bungee with 2 loops, one round the neck and one round the mouthpiece, is that if necessary you can just pull the mouthpiece through the smaller bungee loop in order to donate the reg.
Trying to do this with surgical tube cable-tied to the mouthpiece either sounds like a quick way to pull the mouthpiece off or loose a few teeth when the reg slips out of the hand of whoever is pulling it.

I'm not completly following this thread so forgive me if we are discussing something completly different, but what I was refering to is a typical Hog style secondary. In this scenario you donate your primary to the OOA diver and use the regulator bungied to your neck yourself.

James

 

[cornfed]

I'm not completly following this thread so forgive me if we are discussing something completly different

I think we're discussing how to be nice to each other on line. Or was it cave diving? With all the talk about multiple long hoses, remedial learning and the proper placement of agricultural products I'm a little confused.

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

I'm not completly following this thread so forgive me if we are discussing something completly different, but what I was refering to is a typical Hog style secondary. In this scenario you donate your primary to the OOA diver and use the regulator bungied to your neck yourself.

James

Ok I get what you saying now.
I have question now, I went diving in a rock quarry that is about 140(130-140) ft deep. I had a diver jump in without his fins. I noticed him having problems and asked if I could help. I went and got his fins and he couldn't get them on in the water. I had to help him out of his gear and help pull up his equipment on the platform. The question is coming I promise. I noticed that he had his primary wrapped aropund his neck and another bungeed to his neck. He was in a dry suit and his gear was two tanks on a wing and backplate. I didn't know exactly what kind of diving he was doing. It is PEnnyRoyal Scuba out of Hopkinsville, KY. I didn't know if you might tell me what kind of diving he could have been doing. It looked like TEch diving.

 

[HammerNoMore]

Which do you guys think is best?

To simplify things lets say there are three main types of gear configurations:

1. Typical recreactional.
2. DIR/Hogarthian
3. Somewhere in between.

Large portions of the users here fall into all three categories. Which is best is a personal decision. I fall into the 3rd category, but I believe every serious diver owes it to themselves to at least learn why DIR & Hog divers choose the setups they do. If you want to go down this road start here:

http://www.gue.com/equipment/equip-anatomy.shtml

If that intrigues you, buy the DIR-F book. If you're still interested take the class.

Is there anything else I can do or anything that would be better? In your opinion?

Without trying to beat a dead horse, I've only skimmed the posts involving bouyancy so this is in no way a comment to where or where not you are personally. Avoiding danglies is important but nothing is more important in this area than proper bouyancy control. You can dangle all you want from 10 feet up and the reef will be nice and safe, you can have no danglies at all and run into the reef...

 

[HammerNoMore]

It looked like TEch diving.

Well it may have looked like a duck and quacked like a duck put it was probably a chicken.

Don't confuse gear styles with the type of diving being done. A Hogarthian gear configuration is simply a different configuration than you are used too. Yes it was born amongst technical divers but it can be used just as easily by rec divers. Bascily, these divers decided if it was better for tec, why isn't it better for rec?

There are a couple of threads here on the defintion of a tec diver/dive. Do a search, it really has nothing to do with gear.

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

To simplify things lets say there are three main types of gear configurations:

1. Typical recreactional.
2. DIR/Hogarthian
3. Somewhere in between.

Large portions of the users here fall into all three categories. Which is best is a personal decision. I fall into the 3rd category, but I believe every serious diver owes it to themselves to at least learn why DIR & Hog divers choose the setups they do. If you want to go down this road start here:

http://www.gue.com/equipment/equip-anatomy.shtml

If that intrigues you, buy the DIR-F book. If you're still interested take the class.


Without trying to beat a dead horse, I've only skimmed the posts involving bouyancy so this is in no way a comment to where or where not you are personally. Avoiding danglies is important but nothing is more important in this area than proper bouyancy control. You can dangle all you want from 10 feet up and the reef will be nice and safe, you can have no danglies at all and run into the reef...

Thank you so much for the above info. I will buy that book. I will wait on the class for the reasons you stated last. I just got my BC back today and I am going to try it in the pool without all the neoprene. I get cold easily so I proably use more neoprene than I should. It is my biggest fear to get too cold and not be able to function. I had the same problem in the Army. I hate being cold, and even more I hate being cold and wet.

My instructor told me after I told him about all this and he read it all. 1) not to worry so much about people who haven't dived with me. 2) I worry so much about everyone else when I am in the water, that I am not relaxing. It is not because I am not comfortable in the water, but I am afriad of the worst case scenario. I spend the dive worrying if everyone has enough air, that no one is having a problem etc. that I never relax and have fun.
I have been demoted to the back of the group now. LOL That way the only one I have to worry about is me. Then if someone did have a problem I could see it since I am following.
If I dive alone with my husband on the surface and watching my air bubbles, I have no problem with anything but the water temp.


Thank you so much for your helpful comments.

I have 10 trips planned this summer. I should get a lot of diving in during those and those are without my instructor. Thats not counting the classes I am bringing to him from my area, and I get free air fills and dives when I do bring him new students.

 

[Snowbear]

Is there anything else I can do or anything that would be better? In your opinion?

Since you asked.....
Much of the advice for gear configuration and skills mastery you are seeking is available in a single workshop type class usually offered over a weekend. The cost is less than the cost of most DM classes and about the same as the usual cost of 2 PADI "specialty" courses. The information and skills you learn from this workshop, if applied to your future work as a DM and/or instructor, will greatly benefit your future students.

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

Since you asked.....
Much of the advice for gear configuration and skills mastery you are seeking is available in a single workshop type class usually offered over a weekend. The cost is less than the cost of most DM classes and about the same as the usual cost of 2 PADI "specialty" courses. The information and skills you learn from this workshop, if applied to your future work as a DM and/or instructor, will greatly benefit your future students.

What is the workshop and how do you attend it? Is it offered in Nashville, TN? What is the closest to here? I am willing to go up to an eight to ten hour radius from here.
Thank you so much. I would really like to attend something like this. ANything that helps me to learn and get better is greatly appreciated.
Let me know please

Thank you so much for info
Bridget

 

[matt_unique]

What board is that?

I referenced this board and it's sister tech board The Deco Stop in an earlier post (about 23 pages ago or something).

I am amazed and impressed this board has created a thread area like this. In the past a moderator would simply remove any text they don't like apparently regardless of language or content.

--Matt

PS This reply is to an old question having little to do with the current topic.