Bashing Each other, It is not necessary. I seem to have done it then I apologize.

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James Goddard:
I'm not completly following this thread so forgive me if we are discussing something completly different, but what I was refering to is a typical Hog style secondary. In this scenario you donate your primary to the OOA diver and use the regulator bungied to your neck yourself.

James
Yes I know that you donate the primary but there are still situations in which you may need to quickly free the one around your neck. Just one example, if I needed to unequip you in an emergency I would automatically just pull the octo expecting the bungee to give way. If it then slipped out of my wet hand and smashed you in the mouth it would not make you very happy.
 
miketsp:
Yes I know that you donate the primary but there are still situations in which you may need to quickly free the one around your neck. Just one example, if I needed to unequip you in an emergency I would automatically just pull the octo expecting the bungee to give way. If it then slipped out of my wet hand and smashed you in the mouth it would not make you very happy.
Ahh, ok, now I get where you are coming from. I actually use a two loop bungie but not for the reason you describe. If I need to unequip you in an emgergency I'll be grabbing my Z-knife first and asking questions later ;). You may not be very happy either but if you are Hog equiped you've only lost $10 worth of webbing and $1 worth of bungee :).

James
 
matt_unique:
I referenced this board and it's sister tech board The Deco Stop in an earlier post (about 23 pages ago or something).
Off Topic
The Deco Stop and Scubaboard are NOT sister web sites.
 
Snowbear:
Since you asked.....
Much of the advice for gear configuration and skills mastery you are seeking is available in a single workshop type class usually offered over a weekend. The cost is less than the cost of most DM classes and about the same as the usual cost of 2 PADI "specialty" courses. The information and skills you learn from this workshop, if applied to your future work as a DM and/or instructor, will greatly benefit your future students.
ROFLMAO
 
Off subject -
Hey, just a few more posts and this thread is going to pass the one about exploding a scuba tank in the desert.
 
miketsp:
Off subject -
Hey, just a few more posts and this thread is going to pass the one about exploding a scuba tank in the desert.
And it's about as useful too.
 
cornfed:
What does all these things mean. I don't use acronyms, but real words. CAn someone please tell me what he means this time?
THank you
 
miketsp:
In the light of your post, I reviewed the threads in which you participated and the posts you made.

Basically all the stress started 2 days ago when you raised your buoyancy problem and at the same time stated that you were halfway to DM.

H2Andy made a light suggestion that you might be rushing things in the middle of a post in which he gave constructive advice.
Mechdiver expressed the same concern, maybe a little colder but nothing aggressive.
You then received a series of posts H2Andy, Melfox26, jhelmuth etc which encouraged you and gave you advice but you went more and more on the defensive.
The first post that could be considered anywhere near personal was #50 in the thread about your grammar & spelling with the relevant remark that anybody that teaches needs to fill in evaluations, reports etc & this is fact. It was not expressed as an attack even though later you replied as if it was.

Now one thing worried me up to here. A good part of your self-evaluation is based on the opinion of your instructor whom you describe as "awesome". Lets just take 2 items here.

You went through all your pool dives in an hour and half but after 30 dives (or is it 45 according to another post) you still have buoyancy problems?
Sorry but it sounds like he skimped on your training. When my wife started she also shot through her formal training (35 years snorkelling experience helped) but then she spent a long time in the pool (with the instructor) working on buoyancy & finning style which is not a class requirement.

And then you said your AOW class dives were done in hard(sic) current and then he left newly certified divers in your care? Legally he was sticking his neck way out.

Sorry but what you posted does not inspire confidence.

On the whole the rest of the thread was extremely constructive but it did come over that you have a strong personality but not much tact and this for a leader/DM/instructor is something that needs dealing with.

On the thread "making out under water", you then expressed a very strong opinion "divers do it deeper came out for a reason because someone had their mind in gutter" on what for most divers is really a joke topic - and this sort of straight-laced attitude will not endear you to the majority of your future students.

On the thread about ear clearing you made a couple of posts. The one about AFRIN decongestant I personally consider should have had a warning about the risk of the decongestant effect wearing off at depth and causing a reverse trauma. Just because your doc recommended it for you does not mean it is appropriate for everybody. If you had a little more experience you would not have made the post in the way you did.

You then complained on the Choice, Challenges and Egos thread that you had been attacked on the buoyancy thread. But this thread was about exactly the opposite of what you are doing - rushing through the certification levels! Nobody commented or answered your post because it was out of context.

Then again you complained on the "Can't do proper Safety Stop & Weighting questions" talking about "nasty" comments. Sorry, I can't agree with you; some may have been heavy handed but almost all were constructive - just not what you wanted to hear, certainly not "nasty". Just about everybody that gave you advice also gave you support to carry on.

There are many experienced people on this board who really get worried about low training standards and inexperienced DMs/Instructors. Don't take their worries personally but filter though to the advice.

Also keep reading the threads. I got flamed on more than one occasion because I expressed myself in terminology different from that normally used or touched on a sensitive subject. Keep reading to see what are the other sensitive issues. One you already know.

From what you have posted, you have the determination, you'll make it, but work on the interpersonal relational aspects a little. OK?

I couldn't have said this better. Please go back and review my comments/posts in the boyancy thread - it asked you to consider those opinions who are more knowledgable and take those lessons as gems that you can use. It seemed to mee that you just wanted "nice" reassurance - not the knowledge. This thread seems to confirm that. I like nice - but it is not sufficent to be nice in this sport - especially to those who would propose to be leaders.
Sorry - but it is the truth.
 
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