Another Eagles Nest fatality

[Diving Dubai]

Apologies if this has been posted earlier and I missed it. Cause of death ruled as "Atherosclerosis, or the buildup of plaque in the arteries, contributed to Odom's death, as did obesity, the Medical Examiner's Office said."
Cause of death determined in Eagle's Nest cave dive death

A slight correction

Charles Odom died of accidental drowning while cave diving at Eagle's Nest on Jan. 8, according to the Medical Examiner's Office.

Atherosclerosis, or the buildup of plaque in the arteries, contributed to Odom's death, as did obesity, the Medical Examiner's Office said.

 

[Serge Tao]

A slight correction
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Drowning or MI is not the issue. The poor diver got atherosclerosis because he wasn't full cave certified. And his instructor is to blame for that.

 

[CuzzA]

Drowning or MI is not the issue. The poor diver got atherosclerosis because he wasn't full cave certified. And his instructor is to blame for that.

A person gets atherosclerosis because they are not full cave certified? I thought it was from years of poor dieting and exercise.

So, he had a heart attack or stroke due to atherosclerosis, closed his BOV and bailed out to OC (explains why his CCR was still in good working order and not flooded), but ultimately went unconscious and subsequently drowned?

 

[Beau640]

Unfortunately it's still hard to say without actually being able to read the autopsy report itself. Atherosclerosis does not equal heart attack necessarily, just means you are at risk for one. The autopsy report itself would state if there was ruptured plaque/signs of an acute heart attack rather than just coronary artery disease which is "atherosclerosis."

Although I will say given the description of what happened, the fact that the gear was examined and found to be in good working order, and the info we have from the medical examiner, a medical cause of the fatality is becoming more likely.

 

[oldschoolto]

Drowning or MI is not the issue. The poor diver got atherosclerosis because he wasn't full cave certified. And his instructor is to blame for that.

This why some of us "Question" the cave diving groups as full of themselves... Training would not have changed this dive..

Jim...

 

[Patoux01]

But had he followed his training, he would not have increased the risk for others to lose their playground.

 

[CuzzA]

Drowning or MI is not the issue. The poor diver got atherosclerosis because he wasn't full cave certified. And his instructor is to blame for that.

Serge, sorry for not recognizing the sarcasm.

 

[oldschoolto]

But had he followed his training, he would not have increased the risk for others to lose their playground.

This statement makes no sense... Two highly trained divers died at EN a few months ago, And NO ONE said a word about them doing that dive was going to close EN... All the training in the world could not change the out come of this dive..

jim..

 

[Patoux01]

This statement makes no sense... Two highly trained divers died at EN a few months ago, And NO ONE said a word about them doing that dive was going to close EN...

Maybe, just maybe, it is because they had the required training and skills?

 

[KevinNM]

He should never been in EN. Using a super deep, very dangerous cave as an open water training site is extremely stupid. The two guys who died in October were fully qualified to be doing what they were doing and got killed in what amounts to a freak accident when one got stuck exiting a restriction.