American Air Refuses Oxygen to Dying Woman, Then 3 Equipment Failures

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I would imagine there will be (if anything) more of an assumed waiver that you would "approve" upon purchasing an airline ticket that would absolve the airline of any responsibility for a passenger's health and well-being. It's practically on there now."
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Yep....that would probably fall under "act of God" with everything else the airline doesn't want to be liable for.
 
News reports are not known for their validity...

Relatedly, neither are the first posts on ScubaBoard that cite them.

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Relatedly, neither are the first posts on ScubaBoard that cite them.

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The bottles of oxygen on passenger planes are walk-around bottles for the cabin crew. If there is a depressurization incident, masks for passengers drop from the overhead (you know the drill by now) but the cabin crew is supposed to use walk-around bottles. That's likely what was empty either due to negligence in checking or an attempt at a hangover cure (or both). Anyway, if there had be a depressurization of this aircraft, it is likely that the cabin crew would have been rendered unconscious,
 
The Wall Street Journal had a very different take on this whole thing.

The truth is out there somewhere, but who really cares what the "truth" is -- the story is what's important.
 
The Wall Street Journal had a very different take on this whole thing.

The truth is out there somewhere, but who really cares what the "truth" is -- the story is what's important.
I'd like to see that. Got a link?
 
The bottles of oxygen on passenger planes are walk-around bottles for the cabin crew. If there is a depressurization incident, masks for passengers drop from the overhead (you know the drill by now) but the cabin crew is supposed to use walk-around bottles. That's likely what was empty either due to negligence in checking or an attempt at a hangover cure (or both). Anyway, if there had be a depressurization of this aircraft, it is likely that the cabin crew would have been rendered unconscious,

Geez, Thal... you're making me even more leery about flying American now. And to think I stopped flying commercial aircraft for 22 years once, and that was just because of two potentially fatal situations in one day. Now this...
 
Geez, Thal... you're making me even more leery about flying American now. And to think I stopped flying commercial aircraft for 22 years once, and that was just because of two potentially fatal situations in one day. Now this...
Let's wait on all the facts, it does not appear (at this point) that the walk-around bottles were empty. Time will tell.
 
Here's the link to the WSJ story -- but it may be subscription only.

Highlights:
From reports filed by its crew members, American Airlines pieced together this account of what happened Friday on Flight 896: Ms. Desir was having trouble breathing when a man who identified himself as her cousin told a flight attendant that Ms. Desir had diabetes and that he thought she needed oxygen. The flight attendant told the cousin that the airline doesn't normally administer oxygen for diabetes, and that she would need to check with another crew member, according to the airline's account.

The two crew members discussed the matter for about two minutes, then the attendants approached Ms. Desir, while also soliciting help from medical professionals on board, including at least one doctor, American Airlines said. The professionals took the lead in administering oxygen to Ms. Desir and using the defibrillator to monitor her heart, while flight attendants assisted as needed, the airline said....
There are different classifications for types of oxygen used in flight. The oxygen that passengers receive from masks that drop down from the ceiling is intended for emergency descents. There are also first-aid oxygen bottles, such as the kind requested on the American flight Friday, and oxygen supplied for pilots and flight attendants. Federal regulations require airlines to provide all of these.

Airlines aren't required to have a fourth type of oxygen, known as "medical oxygen," which is oxygen that passengers with disabilities use in nonemergency situations. Airlines can choose to offer this type of oxygen, though many don't. Those that do provide it at a cost to passengers. A currently proposed Department of Transportation rule would require airlines to provide in-flight medical oxygen without charge.

We probably will never know what "really" happened other than the woman died.
 
The article is bunk. The woman's relative likely did not know what he is talking about. He _said_ the O2 bottles were empty but the two doctors and the one nurse did not seem to find problems with the equipment. Checking the level of all the O2 bottle is part of the preflight checklist and all bottles were checked and found full before take off.

I think the reason he _thought_ the bottle was empty was because the doctor took the bottle off and put it aside saying "it's empty" after using all of it's content. At full flow level they don't last long. After using only the two bottles he produced the woman dead.

It's odd that the reporter should choose to base a story on one person's remoarks when there were many others at the scene.
 
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