Air Fill Argument

[ReefHound]

Does anybody have any actual evidence that this is or has been a problem with fire department air?

 

[J.R.]

Don't forget your secret "SpareAir"....

BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!! This here gonna' be a fair duel... no gaming the tables. I don't wanna see no weight droppin... air cuttin' off... mask pullin' or any of that other stuff... we are talkin' HONOR here (... come on... give me that 'AMEN'... ya' know ya' want to...). You would tempt your brother with the bottle!!! You would lead him down the path of excessive consumerism? It's a sad, sad day when the SAC duel boils down to a 'hold out' piece...

... ummm... anybody know where I can get a quick NITROX overfill????

Praise Mike Nelson... and a 'hallaluya' to ya'll...

:wave-smil :wave-smil

 

[robbcayman]

BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!! This here gonna' be a fair duel... no gaming the tables. I don't wanna see no weight droppin... air cuttin' off... mask pullin' or any of that other stuff... we are talkin' HONOR here (... come on... give me that 'AMEN'... ya' know ya' want to...). You would tempt your brother with the bottle!!! You would lead him down the path of excessive consumerism? It's a sad, sad day when the SAC duel boils down to a 'hold out' piece...

... ummm... anybody know where I can get a quick NITROX overfill????

Praise Mike Nelson... and a 'hallaluya' to ya'll...

:wave-smil :wave-smil

 

[Hoosier]

It is another common subject on the board.

There have been the new trend that the dive sites equip their own fill station more and more. So, basically market tells based on supply and demand.

As for the tech divier, the compressor price is going down and if you are a real hard core diver, eventually you will have your own fill station because it is cheaper option. In addition, if you live in a tech favorable area, there is always an air supply from a charter business or some LDS who really want to make money from the air.

 

[DiveAnyone]

Nice manifesto... ... and... ????



WHAT!!! You stiffling my freedom of speach???

As long as those who feel a need to preach the glories of the people's internet over the repressive imperalistic mom & pop LDS, I shall, if for no other reason than because its fun... stand to the defense of the small dive shop operator attempting to scratch out a meger living amidst the evil empire of the mystical marketplace known as 'the internet'...

I say let each make his own bed as is to his liking (give me an 'amen'...) but not wave his bed sheets as a banner triumphant... (howz'about another 'amen'???)...

I say to everything there is a season... and while the LDS may be more expensive and limited in the scope of its merchandising... IT IS JUST DOWN THE STREET brothers and sisters and woe be it unto him who tries to sit down and network with the mysterious faces and unknown qualities of the internet merchant... Yea... I say unto you... try to get an air fill over the internet... try to have somebody on the internet 'checkout' yer rig to assist you in figgurin' out why ya' got this or that discomboobulation happenin' in your divin' universe... (give me a "Thank you Jaques Cousteau...")

I say unto you... ummm.... was there a question associated with this thread???

Support em' all... BUY till' your credid card smokes...

AMEN...

BTW, the local University offers an OW certification class, however they get all their rental gear, and air fills from a LDS. And the only Sporting Goods that provides air fills here is Sports Chalet.

 

[Splitlip]

You probably have a fire department though...

Right.... Maybe in Mayberry when Goober is on duty.
I have seen this brought up before on this board.
I assure you in most metro's in the country the risk managers and fiscal watch dogs won't permit it.
I for one would rather go to my LDS for one shop stopping including air fills.

 

[Splitlip]

It is another common subject on the board.

There have been the new trend that the dive sites equip their own fill station more and more. So, basically market tells based on supply and demand.

As for the tech divier, the compressor price is going down and if you are a real hard core diver, eventually you will have your own fill station because it is cheaper option. In addition, if you live in a tech favorable area, there is always an air supply from a charter business or some LDS who really want to make money from the air.

My dive site is the Atlantic ocean. My garage is filled with cars and other motor vehicles, surfboards, refrigerator, TV and couch. ( I am sitting in in now). Don't have room for a fill station.
Guess I will have to go to my LDS. (I haven't paid for a fill for a long long time. They usually load me up with fills when I purchase gear.)

 

[mfalco]

Right.... Maybe in Mayberry when Goober is on duty.
I have seen this brought up before on this board.
I assure you in most metro's in the country the risk managers and fiscal watch dogs won't permit it.
I for one would rather go to my LDS for one shop stopping including air fills.

I work for the town I live in and still can't get air fills atr the fire station.

They do however fill tanks for the firefighters to dive with. Most of the firefighters are certified divers, because they get paid more to be firefighters if they are.

 

[Hoosier]

My dive site is the Atlantic ocean. My garage is filled with cars and other motor vehicles, surfboards, refrigerator, TV and couch. ( I am sitting in in now). Don't have room for a fill station.
Guess I will have to go to my LDS. (I haven't paid for a fill for a long long time. They usually load me up with fills when I purchase gear.)

Get a bigger house. It sounds like your garage is your living room....

The argument here is that the customer doesn't want to pay more because of an air refill threaten.

You get what you paid for already.. Your LDS business practice work for you. Great...

But, how about other customers who have to pay an air fill even after spending the premium price on the gear?

 

[stiebs]

I'm not certain, but I think I recall seeing a thread or two on this topic in the past...
If you think your LDS deserves your custom, give it to them. If you don't think so, find somewhere else to buy your gear.

I buy some stuff from online stores, some from ebay, some from other second hand sources, and some from my LDS.

My LDS is also my dive club. We have regular club meetings and social drinks at the shop just about every week. They also have a boat and run charters. If I dive with them, it's almost guaranteed that there will be someone else I know on the boat, and usually someone I've dived with before, if I need a buddy.

I spend a lot of money at that shop, and chances are could have saved a fair bit buying online. But they service my regs and hydro my tanks, and will often even lend me their own personal gear if I'm in a bind (eg, waiting on parts, etc).

They realise that I can get equipment cheaper, and they will usually go out of their way to add value where they can. My custom by itself is not enough to make a huge difference to their bottom line, but if me and all their other regular customers went online, they would be forced to close along with the other two local shops that have closed in the past couple of years, and I wouldn't have a social dive club to enjoy.

I can't buy that online.