accidents on DIR community

[amascuba]

From what I've seen on the Quest list over the last year, people have been very open about accidents within the DIR community. Being open about the intimate details allows for people to learn and adapt. I can think of two accidents that were posted on the quest list last year, unfortunately one resulted in a death, and one was a WKPP rebreather diver, both accidents were analyzed with some very intimate detail and at least within the WKPP it mandated that some protocols were changed to prevent the accident in the future.

 

[David C R]

From what I've seen on the Quest list over the last year, people have been very open about accidents within the DIR community. Being open about the intimate details allows for people to learn and adapt. I can think of two accidents that were posted on the quest list last year, unfortunately one resulted in a death, and one was a WKPP rebreather diver, both accidents were analyzed with some very intimate detail and at least within the WKPP it mandated that some protocols were changed to prevent the accident in the future.

Sorry to know about that. Is it posible to share that information??

 

[ae3753]

Those are specific incidents and not the information that you're looking for. And I doubt that you'll find the information you're interested in. There was a similar discussion asking about accidents by agency and it got mired down on accounting. For example, I'm OW through PDIC, did my AI with PADI, Cave with NSS-CDS and IANTD, and learned about DIR through NAUI. So let's say that I have an accident, how am I slotted?

Being familiar with the PADI teaching curriculum and DIR, I do feel that DIR does provide more tools for a diver to be safer. At the same time, it offers hubris that can make the diver more dangerous. At the end of the day, it's not the statistics or accounting that matter, it's how you dive.

 

[mikerault]

In addition is there a statistically relevant number of DIR qualified divers yet? TO be valid the comparison would have to be between similar populaitons of divers (doing similar dives, profiles, depths, etc.)

Mike

 

[limeyx]

Oops, I probably should have edited the quote better. Support teams are definitely not impossible.

I believe Wakulla II project also used FFM and comms devices, although that (FFM) by definition is not "DIR", it does seem possible (although how desirable, I couldn't say)

 

[limeyx]

For example, I'm OW through PDIC, did my AI with PADI, Cave with NSS-CDS and IANTD, and learned about DIR through NAUI. So let's say that I have an accident, how am I slotted?

You, sir are a Mutt-hybrid diver!

 

[ae3753]

You, sir are a Mutt-hybrid diver!

Thanks!

 

[MonkSeal]

At the same time, it offers hubris that can make the diver more dangerous.

This realy makes me laugh I have to add several smilies

 

[rjack321]

Sorry to know about that. Is it posible to share that information??

They are not statistics on accidents, just 2 case histories. One diver had a serious unexplained type 2 hit in cold water. The other was diving hypoxic trimix and was not able to descend fast enough due to weeds in the cave basin. He passed out and was saved by support divers. The WKPP has a new protocol for escorting divers using hypoxic trimix from the surface to suitable depths now.

To get more you should sign up for Quest. I'm not going to cut and paste those old discussions into SB.

 

[amascuba]

They are not statistics on accidents, just 2 case histories. One diver had a serious unexplained type 2 hit in cold water.

Cold water is an understatement. It was a bad deal regardless between the equipment failures, the uncontrolled ascent because of the equipment failures, and the crash into the ice upon ascent.

I agree. Both of the incidents were laid out in great depth of detail. If you are interested in either incident then you should sign up for quest and look through the archives.