a retreat from DIR

[JeffG]

my goal is not to be DIR

Hence my "Thats nice" comment. There is nothing wrong with the fact you don't want to be DIR, thats between you and your buddies.

I still do not understand your thread. What kind of feedback do you want?

my goal is to do something that is safe and works for my diving and my team

LOL....unbelievable.

with that said, i respect DIR's position. i'm just trying to see if anyone can
suggest reasons i haven't thought of not to make the change.

Are you sure you would like the answers?

 

[JeffG]

And I have said a few things about my opinion of GI. Not relevant to the question I asked though.

It is though.

for cases when DIR and non-DIR trained divers meet and want to do an 'advanced' dive?

Wouldn't happen

 

[H2Andy]

I still do not understand your thread. What kind of feedback do you want?

as i said earlier in the thread, i'm looking for reasons that i shouldn't
shift the light to the right hand.

that way, i can see if i've missed certain cosiderations.

Are you sure you would like the answers?

well, so far i've heard some good things, but generally speaking
they are considerations i've already taken into account.

 

[lamont]

I've tried the light handle in the right hand before. It was trivial and fairly reflexive to just move it quickly to the left hand when doing an OOA. Having tried it, I doubt you're going to convince Andy that he's wrong just by merit of the lights-flashing-in-eyes argument. I was convinced simply because I give the kool-aid some credit.

As far as the left hip SPG goes... I really don't care to try to convince anyone to stick with it... But I would like to note that I clip and unclip from the hip D-ring wearing smurf gloves, and I don't know what you girly men are complaining about...

 

[JeffG]

as i said earlier in the thread, i'm looking for reasons that i shouldn't
shift the light to the right hand.

that way, i can see if i've missed certain cosiderations.

LOL

I get a kick out this.

Right hand/ Left Hand. There is no rule. Who said there was a rule? It goes in the hand that makes sense. Most of the time that is in the left hand, but there is nothing saying you can't put it in your right hand if you need to. As a diver of a team you need to be able to deal with a situation regardless of which hand the light is in.

As far as your spg goes...you are using a gear configuration change to compensate for a skill issue. Do you see a problem with that?

 

[H2Andy]

As far as your spg goes...you are using a gear configuration change to compensate for a skill issue. Do you see a problem with that?

i see a problem with you calling it a skill issue without really knowing the
particulars.

is it wrong to do something the easy way when there are no negative side
effects to doing it that way?

if after two years of diving that way i'm still having problems, then maybe it's
just not for me

also, the SPG issue is really not a big deal. it didn't cause a big problem
as the light on the left hand did. if i run into problems with the new SPG
location, i'll have to re-think the move. until then, if it ain't broke, don't
fix it.

 

[JeffG]

is it wrong to do something the easy way when there are no negative side
effects to doing it that way?

Then why is it not the choice for DIR then? I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, but ask yourself that.

if after two years of diving that way i'm still having problems, then maybe it's
just not for me

Trust me, Its just you. Many divers DIR/nonDIR alike seem to be able to handle the spg clipped off to the left hip without any problems.

 

[H2Andy]

i didn't say "it's not just me." i said "it's just not for me."

there are far more divers with the SPG clipped to the harness d-ring that with
it clipped to the hip d-ring. many of them have been diving since before there
was DIR. some of them taught JJ how to dive.

it's apparently not for them either.

look, the issue is not one of DIR people have skills, everybody else doesn't,
or DIR people are clones, other divers aren't.

the issue was:

what reasons are there that i shouldn't do x, y, z? i wanted to hear
the possibilities to help me become a better diver.

 

[JeffG]

i see a problem with you calling it a skill issue without really knowing the particulars.

and yes I know the particulars and I still call it a skill issue.

 

[JeffG]

i didn't say "it's not just me." i said "it's just not for me."

there are far more divers with the SPG clipped to the harness d-ring that with
it clipped to the hip d-ring

Well...do what you want. Is this thread just a troll then?