A good idea for Bonaire

[Docc]

Maybe you just have never dove any place good and you think Jamaica is good? Had a freind dive there and said all the reefs were in very bad shape and there was nothing to see.

Wish you could be more accurate and post what people actually said, verusus what you THINK they said. Maybe DR and Jamaica are great places to you but maybe you just don't know how bad they are because you have never been to good places? Where have you dove besides Bonaire?

I've dove Cozumel, Playa, Saba, St. Martin, Bonaire.....as well as Jamaica. I've also dove cave systems in northwest Florida and the Yucatan. I've noticed most of your information seems to come from "what somebody told you", or "what my friend said".

Get out from behind your computer and go dive. Post about what you KNOW, not about you HEARD.

 

[ScubaSteve]

Sorry, I must have missed this question in amongst all the important and factual information that you posted PF.

Where have you dove besides Bonaire?

My list is not as impressive as others but here it is none the less:

Ontario, Nova Scotia, SoCal, Cozumel, Turks & Caicos, St. Marten, St. Thomas, DR, Puerto Rico, Bonaire, Mayan Riviera, Thailand

 

[Cave Diver]

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It just seesm to me that a stake out at popular shore dive sites might help the car break problem. Why is that not done? The condo break ins pose a bigger problem to solve. Does anyone have a serious suggestion on how to solove that dangerous crime problem?

PilotFish, I for one, attempted to have a reasonable discussion with you on the previous Bonaire thread. You pretty much just flat out ignored my posts, any attempts to answer reasonable questions, to back up any statements you made with fact or to generally do much more than run around ridiculing others for spreading what you called "pixie dust"

If people posting their first hand experiences are "pixie dust" then your "some stranger I met told me" postings must be nothing more than troll scat.

My opinion is that you don't want real solutions. You just want to run around wearing your "crime on bonaire" mantra like a cloak and trying to convince people you're the king of all things Caribbean.

If you truly want to do something about crime on Bonaire, then you'll learn how to communicate and interact with people in a reasonable manner and convince them your cause is just but producing facts, evidence and statistics. Not using strawman arguments and smoke and mirror tactics based on "some divers I met in the Caribbean."

Maybe more people would take your quest for a solution a bit more seriously and be more forthcoming with ideas to combat the crime (to whatever degree it actually exists).

 

[ONESPEED]

You have to thank a post that uses the term "troll scat", it's a moral imperative.

 

[ScubaSteve]

You have to thank a post that uses the term "troll scat", it's a moral imperative.

I guess that means I had to thank yours because you said Troll Scat.

 

[Docc]

I guess that means I had to thank yours because you said Troll Scat.

Troll Scat.......

 

[Docc]

Someone should start a TROLL SCAT thread for the thanks wh0res......IJS......

 

[mike_s]

Jamaica and DR are not good dive destinations, as is Coz, Saba, Bonaire ,Dominica etc. You should know that?

Have you ever been to all these locations? (no.... I didnt' think so...)

Maybe you just have never dove any place good and you think Jamaica is good? Had a freind dive there and said all the reefs were in very bad shape and there was nothing to see.

I can assure you that Docc has done more diving in more locations than you could ever make lies up about....

I know for a fact that he's been to Bonaire. I know people who went on the trip with him. He was not robbed, and he's going back next year.

No one that is a diver, with experience, thinks DR, Jamaica are good places to dive. Just do a search here on Scubaboard to see some descriptions and comapre them to places like Coz, Saba, Dominica, Bonaire, Grand Turk and you'll see.

I'd heard that the diving in Jamaica wasn't any good either. I have to say that I was surprised with the diving there. it was quite good. Not as many fish as say the Florida keys, but the reefs were in good shape and were colorful. I can dig up pics if you want.... but I doubt you'd even believe a picture as proof, you are so narrow minded.

There is much you do not know. They never mix divers with Cruise ship people.

another dumb ass assumption on your part.

I have been on many island locations where half the people on the dive boat had gotten off the cruise boat that day.

clearly your travel and diving experience is very narrow.



Pifi, I've got to agree with the others. You need to get out and dive some instead of whinning behind the keyboard like a baby about stuff "you heard", when you've yet to really experience anything real.

 

[Cave Diver]

Wow, we owe Pilot Fish an apology:

Apr 1, 9:21 AM EDT

Netherlands to use militia in combating crime

By KEN THOMAS
Associated Press Writer
AP Photo/Seth Wenig


WASHINGTON (AP)--The Netherlands have announced a plan to get tough on crime. For the first time in their history the Netherlands are sending a militia force to supplement local police in an effort to quell a growing crime problem. Bonaire, a territory in the Lesser Antilles has been faced with a pandemic of rising crime in recent years. A well known source has been quoted that the problem is "widely known throughout the entire Caribbean."

There are two principal security agencies, which share responsibility for internal security: The Security Service of the Netherlands, which is responsible for intelligence gathering and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which controls the various police forces.

Under the Law on Militia, the major militia's tasks are to a) provide personal security for citizens; b) protect their rights and freedoms; c) prevent and combat crime; d) maintain public order; e) reveal and detect crime; f) arrest offenders; g) maintain safety on the roads; h) protect public and private property; and i) execute criminal sentences and administrative penalties (Clause 2).

The militia consists of several subdivisions: a) criminal division (detectives); b) public safety; c) transportation militia; d) traffic patrol; e) safeguards; and f) special forces (Clause 7). The Law on Combatting Organized Crime has provided for the creation of special divisions, such as regional agencies, to combat organized crime.

According to the Law on Militia, the militia has a right to use physical force, special means, and firearms. The use of force is forbidden against women with obvious signs of pregnancy, elderly people, persons with obvious disabilities, or minors. An exception can be made in cases where a group of these persons is committing an assault which threatens lives and health of people, militia officers, or cases of armed assault or resistance. (Clause 12).


<snip> Story continues here: AP - Netherlands Crime

 

[ScubaSteve]

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