7 foot hose Rec. Diving?

[Steve R]

Because if your buddy goes for the reg on your necklace instead of the one in your mouth it might be a problem if he yanks on one too firmly attached to your necklace. It might be an embrace that neither of you lives through. It's entirely up to you whether follow this advice though.

thanks for coming out.

how on earth is my buddy going to get through all that body and gear to find a back-up secured fairly firmly and tucked under my chin?

Unless I am diving totally verticle, it's not too visually apparent at all. Maybe that's how you dive though, so there's always that thought.

The only thing a buddy is going to see in a total panic, if he see's anything at all, is going to be only what is smack in his face.

lol, this stuff is just too funny, which is to say I think I'll pass on your ideas. lol.

holy clueless, but your single file OOA already told me that much I guess.

 

[Blackwood]

If you're newer to diving, and are still getting used to the underwater world, it makes less sense: the 7 foot hose takes a little getting used to

If you are new to diving, everything takes a little getting used to.

and can float up and get in the way a little until you're accustomed.

Not if properly stowed. It's probably not a good idea to just go buy one, hook it up, and jump in the water. Ask for help.

Because if your buddy goes for the reg on your necklace instead of the one in your mouth it might be a problem if he yanks on one too firmly attached to your necklace. It might be an embrace that neither of you lives through. It's entirely up to you whether follow this advice though.

Three words: pre dive briefing.

If your buddy doesn't understand how you donate air, there is a problem.

 

[nereas]

Because if your buddy goes for the reg on your necklace instead of the one in your mouth it might be a problem if he yanks on one too firmly attached to your necklace. It might be an embrace that neither of you lives through. It's entirely up to you whether follow this advice though.

If TheRedHead did that with me, I would be perfectly happy with it. Then we would be close enough to kiss underwater, and I could more easily reach her gear if I needed to, depending on how her buoyancy goes during all the excitement and drama. She looks like the kind of woman that you don't let go of, either underwater or above it.

But somehow I believe she has learned already to go for longer hoses, not shorter ones.

 

[TheRedHead]

If TheRedHead did that with me, I would be perfectly happy with it. Then we would be close enough to kiss underwater, and I could more easily reach her gear if I needed to, depending on how her buoyancy goes during all the excitement and drama. She looks like the kind of woman that you don't let go of, either underwater or above it.

But somehow I believe she has learned already to go for longer hoses, not shorter ones.

:11: :11:

 

[Abbo]

There seem to be a lot of strong opinions and missionary zeal on this thread. Dive any way that makes sense to you, as long as you understand the implications of the decisions you are making. Some people tuck the long hose in bungees; I wrap it around me. I think my method allows it to be deployed faster, just by ducking my head. It is understood, among tech divers, that an out-of-air diver goes for the long hose; if, for some reason, somebody goes for the short hose, and yanks on it, I want the necklace to release it. The out-of-air diver may not even be my buddy: I might be on a solo dive, and some panicked rec diver ambushes me for air. I don't want his recklessness to put my life at risk.

The long hose never seems to get in the way when I'm diving doubles, though it can with a single tank. I switched to rebreathers a year or so back, so I rarely dive with a long hose anymore. Next week I have to take my trimix course all over again: this time for rebreather diving.

The world has had more than enough of religious fundamentalism. I'm not seeking to convert anyone to my way of diving, and am only describing the way I dive because I enjoy diving and talking about diving. I respect those with different views, but try to be civil about it.

 

[JCAT]

Of course, I'm controlling. It's my gas and you're damn straight I'm controlling. I'm not blowing my stops and getting bent because some Darwin award winner needs my help.

I don't dive with people who run out of gas. And I'm sure not cradling some total stranger who must have beans for brains to run out of gas.

I usually have some deco obligation. I'm not going to risk my life coddling some freaked rec diver

I might be on a solo dive, and some panicked rec diver ambushes me for air. I don't want his recklessness to put my life at risk.

I’m amazed at this type of attitude.

 

[TheRedHead]

I’m amazed at this type of attitude.

There is absolutely no excuse for an OOA unless you have a catastrophic 1st stage failure. A panicked OOA diver will often try to bolt to the surface with your reg. Then you are looking at 2 possible accidents.

 

[texarkandy]

Believe it or not - I read aaaalllll the way through this thread. I would just like to raise one issue for consideration.

The hypotheticals seem to be mixed at times between sharing with your DIR/Tech/Wreck whatever trained buddy who knows your plan/procedure & sharing with some potential panicked Resort Trained OW McDiver who comes at you out of the blue & grabs your primary.

Seems to me that in the case of the hypothetical OW noobie McDiver coming at you out of the blue who may be halfway trying to do it right, but is getting close to edge of panic, is going to go grabbing at you for either "the other one that aint in yer mouth" (which in the case of DIR will be your short hosed bungee) and/or "tha yella one"

I've noticed most rec setups sold to rec divers have the octo-reg & hose colored bright yellow? Mine is.

Seems to me it would not necessarily be wise to bungee one of those yellow octo regs around your neck on a yellow (or black) hose if your intention is to donate your primary (even if on a 7' hose) I don't recall if the original question poster on this thread indicated whether or not he was using one of those rec-octo-reg for the secondary.

Do you DIR/Tech/Wreck/whatever folks use a yellow hose for your intended "donate" reg? Wouldn't it be a good idea if you don't now?

(Oh, and I already know you don't use those rec octo-regs, thank you, so you can tell the cat with the tommy-gun to just chill)

(Oh, again, - I already know "Red" is just going to cut my inflator hose, pull my integrated weight release handle, stab me, and give me a nice hard kick to get me away - so you can chill too!! )

 

[TheRedHead]

Seems to me that the hypothetical OW noobie McDiver who may be halfway trying to do it right, but is getting close to edge of panic, is going to go looking for "tha yella wun".

That's a myth. They go for the one in your mouth. See bubbles, take reg.

Do you DIR/Tech/Wreck/whatever folks use a yellow hose for your intended "donate" reg?

I don't. It is my primary regulator. And a very good quality Apeks. A lot of divers use crap octos and don't even check them. This is a much better system.

 

[DivingCRNA]

Believe it or not - I read aaaalllll the way through this thread. I would just like to raise one issue for consideration.

The hypotheticals seem to be mixed at times between sharing with your DIR/Tech/Wreck whatever trained buddy who knows your plan/procedure & sharing with some potential panicked Resort Trained OW McDiver who comes at you out of the blue & grabs your primary.

Seems to me that the hypothetical OW noobie McDiver who may be halfway trying to do it right, but is getting close to edge of panic, is going to go looking for "tha yella wun".

I've noticed most rec setups sold to rec divers have the octo reg & hose colored bright yellow? Mine is.

Seems to me it would not necessarily be wise to bungee one of those yellow octo regs around your neck on a yellow (or black) hose if your intention is to donate your primary.

Do you DIR/Tech/Wreck/whatever folks use a yellow hose for your intended "donate" reg?

(Oh, and I already know you don't use those rec octo regs, thank you, so you can tell the cat with the tommy-gun to just chill)

My primary and back up are both the same zeagle reg. Primary is on a 7 foot hose. My buddies know that is what to take. No yellow.