7 foot hose Rec. Diving?

[Nemrod]

So I guess what we are saying here is that a seven foot hose as an octapus would not be cool if used as a second to a double hose regulator on a semi-Hog rig even if I bungee it around my neck with a fisherman' knot?

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[Meng_Tze]

I have never met anyone who does cave, wreck or deep technical diving who does not use a 7 foot hose - except rebreather divers (who carry sling tanks instead).

Depending on the dive plan, you could get a bottle handed to you as well in a cave, deep or wreck dive. Just a thought

if you're doing that kind of diving it makes a lot of sense. If you're newer to diving, and are still getting used to the underwater world, it makes less sense: the 7 foot hose takes a little getting used to, and can float up and get in the way a little until you're accustomed. It shouldn't be a fashion statement: use it only if the benefits outweight the entanglement hazard.

This is one of the core things that came out of this entire thread: know waht you are doing and why.

2. The main reason for a long hose, though, is for going through constrictions. If you are on a short hose sharing air and you both have to squeeze through a tight hatchway or passage on a wreck or cave, you will want to go one in front of the other: usually, the one giving the air goes in front. If you have tried it, it takes a little practice even with a long hose: I would not like to have to try it with a short one. These things are stressful at the best of times.

The one receiving gas goes in front, this is so that if he looses the reg from his mouth.... the donor can see that and replace it. If he is behind you and looses it... you (the donor) could be swimming along and not noticing....leaving behind a diver without gas. The reg could then be dragging behind you and snag somewhere. Now you both have a problem. Add to this a restriction, silt and you have the makings of a double fatality.

Like it was said, know what you are doing and why.. it is also well advised to get training where this is covered. This is not something to learn on the internet. Get proper training to ensure you are taught right and understand/practice these things.

Don't tie the secondary too tightly to the necklace: if you pull on it it should come loose.

Why is this?

 

[Steve R]

Why is this?

Because he learned it on the internet along with single-file air shares

It's called e-learning. I get all my training this way.

 

[UnderSeaBumbleBee]

When by buddy and I do air share drills in open water with the long hose, we swim side by side. She is getting ready to change her config to bp/w with long hose. We spent last weekend in the pool doing drills and trying gear. I have a bp/w with a HOG harness and she has been diving standard jacket style bc with standard rec reg set up. For our first tank, I put her my gear and set her up while I dove in her gear. Then we switched and I dove my gear while she had on her jacket stuff. From a performance standpoint we both feel that the bp/w with long hose works better for us. There will be an Aerial BC that is almost new up on EBay in the next few days

We dive mostly in Lake Jocassee which is a fresh water mountain lake with vis on average about 15'-20' and will mostly only be diving within sport diving depth limits on single tanks.

The bottom line is that you need to find gear that fits YOU well and that you feel perfoms well for you. For me that is a bp/w with a long hose. I have other friends that I dive with that swear by their jackets and short hoses.

When I went with the long hose many told me at the lake that I would have a hard time dealing with the long hose and that I would regret the gear I purchased. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It took a couple of dives to get used to, but that would be true of most gear for most fairly new divers. I continue to like what I have more and more. I just decided to hang up my very $$$ Scuba Pro Twin jet fins in favor of my Scuba Pro jet fins. After using both of them, for me I have decided that the jets work best for me. That is not to say that I haven't enjoyed the splits, but the jets just work better for me. It was only after using the gear in the water over the course of many dives that I came to that mindset. A hose is cheap, buy one and see how it works for you. You might like it or hate it. Dive it and find out. Hoses are easily swaped out.

 

[TheRedHead]

So I guess what we are saying here is that a seven foot hose as an octapus would not be cool if used as a second to a double hose regulator on a semi-Hog rig even if I bungee it around my neck with a fisherman' knot?

Go ahead and try it. You really don't have anything to lose.

 

[Marvel]

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Gentle members,

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[Abbo]

Because he learned it on the internet along with single-file air shares

It's called e-learning. I get all my training this way.

Because if your buddy goes for the reg on your necklace instead of the one in your mouth it might be a problem if he yanks on one too firmly attached to your necklace. It might be an embrace that neither of you lives through. It's entirely up to you whether follow this advice though.

 

[pengwe]

Is there anything wrong with having a 7foot hose when recreational diving?
Any special considerations etc.? I am diving a single 80 Alu tank on a Zeagle Ranger.?????

Thanks! to those that have tried to answer my question.
I will refrain from saying anything regarding the people that might be of some value if they actually spent their time and energy trying to help answer the question asked instead of getting lost in their mixed up minds and games.

You need something to hook it under at the waist. Knife, light, pocket, whatever.
When you add other gear, make sure that it doesn't trap the hose in any way.
Before every dive, as part of your pre-dive check, hold it out in front of you like you are going to give it to someone, and check that the whole length is deployable. It's easy to get it caught on/under something when you are gearing up.
Practise with it in the water, until you are comfortable (and then some).

 

[robertarak]

To the OP: Hi! Welcome to the board, you'll like it here. Or is it too late for that?
Anyway, I am a new diver, diving a BP/W. Very soon after OW I switched to a 5' hose on my primary. That has worked well for me, both diving and air-share drills. I am now thinking of switching to a 7' hose on my primary. I got to taste the DPV world (man, thoses x-scooters are fun!) and see that in my future. Now, it makes sence for me to move to a longer hose for use with the DPV. My plan is to get use to the new config. of the longer hose, before I get the scooter. I also plan on using the same config. when rec. diving without the scooter. I will be used to it, I will know, I will be comfortable with it and be able to offer the long hose (hmm... bumper sticker: Real Divers Offer Their Long Hose) without delay.

If you have a need for it, there is no reason not to do it. Nothing says if you dive rec. you can't have a 7' primary. You will often see guys who dive cave or the DIR crowd diving a "fun" dive...single tank rec., but their basic config. will still have a long hose and all the other DIR stuff...it's what they are use to and being use to it and able to use it is what counts.

Anyway, that's my 2 psi. I have to run off to the LDS for a long hose.

 

[Meng_Tze]

Because if your buddy goes for the reg on your necklace instead of the one in your mouth it might be a problem if he yanks on one too firmly attached to your necklace. It might be an embrace that neither of you lives through. It's entirely up to you whether follow this advice though.

On the other hand, if he does take it and it does comes off the bungee, it is too short to breathe for him. He will find this out soon enough. By this time you have donated the long hose and he is breathing that. You now have a very short hosed backup reg behind your head floating........so you either get that backup reg in your mouth or share the primary with your buddy.... adding to stress and time needed to surface.

If it is free flowing, more of an issue.

This is why you practice donating gas with your buddies and agree on how things are going to happen.

PS: I had a backup reg come off its bungee/mouthpiece during gas share.. I could not get it back in my mouth it was flailing behind me.... there was no need for that. Someone else had put it together for me, a valuable lesson learned that day........do it yourself and make sure it is friking tight.