Question on Form - How many logged dives since certified?

[Robert H. Diver]

Personally I like it that way. I think it would be a pain to have to show my c-card every time I was getting a fill. If I’m bringing my own personal tank in to get it filled what I do with it is my business. Shouldn’t be the dive shops responsibility to make sure that I’m certified. But that’s just my opinion. I’m sure there’s all sorts of personal liability attorneys out there that would disagree.

I completely agree

 

[Marie13]

in florida? why am i not surprised.
could you imagine the sh*t show that would happen if someone died diving and it was found out that a dive shop gave gas to an uncertified diver?
i am betting it has happened somewhere.

I know of dive shops in the Midwest that require a signed liability waiver for tank fills for paint ball.

 

[Gene]

I used to take my aunt and uncle's tanks to Frank's dive shop near Blue Heron Bridge in Riviera Beach and was never asked for a c-card, which was good because I didn't have one yet!

 

[NW Dive Dawg]

My local shop ALWAYS asks for my C-Card..... Just understand that the "C" stands for Credit!

As to the issue of providing a dive log to verify experience, I can only recall being asked to provide that info twice. Once for my IDC and then again for my IE. Even then, I didn't have the log so just had to make one up as best as my memory would serve....

I started diving in 1970 and going to the shop (Steeles) in Oakland CA with my dad. It was like going to a good friends house... or a barber shop where they just get to know you... Nobody ever asked anything about certifications or logged dives... I guess when they see you schlepping a dozen steel 72's from the jeep into the store.....they just figure that you're OK..

I now have a "new" documentation issue in that I'm headed on chartered Catamaran trip to the BVI in 5 weeks and since I'm over 65, they want a signed "permission slip" from a doctor saying that I'm good to go. What doctor in their right mind would write that note? Even if all they wanted was for him to say something more benign like.... "I see no reason why this person cannot dive"...... I still would not sign that if I was a doctor..

 

[justadyver]

My local shop ALWAYS asks for my C-Card..... Just understand that the "C" stands for Credit!

As to the issue of providing a dive log to verify experience, I can only recall being asked to provide that info twice. Once for my IDC and then again for my IE. Even then, I didn't have the log so just had to make one up as best as my memory would serve....

I started diving in 1970 and going to the shop (Steeles) in Oakland CA with my dad. It was like going to a good friends house... or a barber shop where they just get to know you... Nobody ever asked anything about certifications or logged dives... I guess when they see you schlepping a dozen steel 72's from the jeep into the store.....they just figure that you're OK..

I now have a "new" documentation issue in that I'm headed on chartered Catamaran trip to the BVI in 5 weeks and since I'm over 65, they want a signed "permission slip" from a doctor saying that I'm good to go. What doctor in their right mind would write that note? Even if all they wanted was for him to say something more benign like.... "I see no reason why this person cannot dive"...... I still would not sign that if I was a doctor..

that's strange ,have been on 6 different private charters in BVI. all were for diving ,only once was I even asked to show my c card. last time I went was 3 years ago
I am 70 years old

 

[NW Dive Dawg]

that's strange ,have been on 6 different private charters in BVI. all were for diving ,only once was I even asked to show my c card. last time I went was 3 years ago
I am 70 years old

Yeah..... I'm sure that it's all about liability and lawyers. The "Cat" outfit is called Tradewinds and my best friend and fellow instructor chartered the boat for a week to celebrate his 65th b-day. Oh well, I'll figure it out.

I should also mention that even though I started diving in the 70's.....I didn't get Certified until 1994..... and of course went with Steeles since they knew me.... Just went with the Concord CA store since it was closer. Funny thing is when I took the OW course they asked for a photo on the first day of class so I had a buddy take my "headshot" pic while I was still in gear and had just finished two 90 minute+ dives (about 20ft max) at the Berkeley aquatic park retrieving a few hundred Disc golf discs on one of the holes that had a difficult over water shot...

But back to the original post...... I personally think that "logging" dives is cool and I always encouraged my students to maintain a log because if you don't do it from the start, you probably never will. Also, signing and stamping their logbooks at the graduation "ceremony" after the OW course was satisfactorily completed..... was something that I think they and I both felt was basically a "right of passage". It's just that logging dives is not at all important to me personally.

The bottom line for me is right there in my signature..... "Qualified trumps certified, every day of the week"....and "Always Question Authority" . But sometimes you just have to play ball when you are in someone elses ballpark!

Cheers!

 

[ReefHound]

I have been diving since 1994, and my first CZM dive trip was a couple of weeks after I was certified. I meticulously logged my dives on that trip and then I promptly lost the log book. I have not logged a dive since.

For me, dives are like rock concerts; I enjoy being there in the moment but after a dive I am done with it and ready to move on to the next one.

I know the popular answer, especially from dive pros, is to encourage people to log dives, and I do think it's important for beginners because there are cert levels that require minimum logged dives, but it seems unnecessary to me after you reach several hundred. I don;t log the meals I eat out at restaurants, either.

I log mine electronically only because it's so easy but I just do a data import and don't fill in details. You hear people talk about referring to past dives to see what weight or thermal protection you used in certain conditions but I never have. But gear and my body changes would render that irrelevant anyway.

 

[rick00001967]

Personally I like it that way. I think it would be a pain to have to show my c-card every time I was getting a fill. If I’m bringing my own personal tank in to get it filled what I do with it is my business. Shouldn’t be the dive shops responsibility to make sure that I’m certified. But that’s just my opinion. I’m sure there’s all sorts of personal liability attorneys out there that would disagree.

unfortunately "we" here in north america have created a society where no one is responsible for anything they do.

 

[formernuke]

I've had to show mine first time every time once they have me in the system I'm good.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

unfortunately "we" here in north america have created a society where no one is responsible for anything they do.

Given that I take responsibility for my own actions and have never sued anyone for anything, I wouldn't say "we". But I get your point and don't disagree. It is a societal issue.