Changing Covid testing requirements

[tridacna]

450 pesos. Cozumel International Hospital / SSS Chamber Network

What is the procedure? Do you have to book an appt or just walk in?

 

[brsnow]

What is the procedure? Do you have to book an appt or just walk in?

Many hotels have them and there are Covid walk in testing locations. They also have traditional labs, it seems they do a more thorough swab and might be better for you. They probably need an appointment.

 

[waterone]

Nailed it. It’s easy enough, though anxiety provoking, to know the CDC rules and airline requirements (the onus to act is on them). But dealing with a + result in a foreign land, having to quarantine, change travel arrangements, etc. is a tall order. Just came back from the Canary Islands (Spanish) and had to add a day to do testing in downtown Madrid for the Ag test. Worked out ok but would’ve been royally screwed if that came back +. Nobody ever plans on getting sick.

Now I always plan on what if I get sick and is my sole reason for buying travel insurance on trips now. Travel insurance is fairly reasonable, and I would suggest anyone currently planning on traveling acquiring some form of it.

Anyhow----At least in Mexico if I get sick it will be easier than Hawaii

Sorry, but that is just incorrect. Vaccination reduces the opportunity for the virus to mutate; it doesn't increase it. The more people who have it the more walking petri dishes there are.

In general, that is what a vaccination will do, but is seems not always. From my understanding is that if the vaccinated can catch and transmit the virus there can be an opportunity for the virus to replicate and mutate (good or bad).

It seems that currently the vaccinated public also have high transmission rates. Which to me is why I find it laughable when places only test the unvaccinated, if they are testing it should be everyone.

CDC Announces 79% of All US Omicron Cases Have Occurred in Vaccinated Individuals

As the omicron variant spreads, the CDC has reported that the majority of those getting it have actually been fully vaccinated.

www.westernjournal.com

These less-than-perfect vaccines create a “leaky” barrier against the virus. Vaccinated individuals may get sick but have less severe symptoms, but the virus survives long enough to transmit to others, which allows it to survive and spread throughout a population.

“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

www.healthline.com

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It is very nice that you changed the quality of your post

What is the procedure? Do you have to book an appt or just walk in?

Many hotels if you stay longer than 7 days will give you a free test within a day of flying out. I also did a test down at Costa Med and I think it was $28 and you could sign up online.

 

[Cert1967]

What is the procedure? Do you have to book an appt or just walk in?

We walked into the hospital and registered/paid at the desk on the west side of the lobby. The test area was on the east side of the lobby.

No appointment - just walked in

We waited for several folks to be swabbed while we filled out their forms.

In/out in less than 15 mins.

 

[DandyDon]

What is the procedure? Do you have to book an appt or just walk in?

From that FB post: "you can walk in without an appointment from 7 AM to 7 PM Mon-Sat and until 5 pm on Sunday."

They also have traditional labs

I have used a Simi lab halfway between my favorite cheap hotel near the plaza and this darling Italian restaurant. The tech gets her lab dress on while I complete the form, I'm in and out in a few minutes, then I pick up the hard copy on the way back, before stopping at the ice cream shop. The email works better with the airline check-in at United as that was pre-accepted before I started packing the night before flying, but I like the hardcopy just in case. I have failed to get the email once, but the last trip the girl read my address back to me aloud and that worked well.

it seems they do a more thorough swab and might be better for you.

I doubt that anyone really wants that. They want to pass and go.

Now I always plan on what if I get sick and is my sole reason for buying travel insurance on trips now. Travel insurance is fairly reasonable, and I would suggest anyone currently planning on traveling acquiring some form of it.

Significant medical coverage and repatriation have always been my main reason for trip insurance and insisting on my family doing the same. Getting injured, seriously ill, or dead on a trip is always a risk better accepted at home. I was lucky in my younger and dumber days as I would have been screwed without it. Our claims so far have been for being delayed returning like when I was in Roatan on 9-11-01, when my granddaughter got carelessly with her passport in China - a foreigner can't do anything without one and had to start claims before she could even get a hotel, and when I carelessly lost electronics, but the risks are greater. DAN's Trip Insurance is really impressive in coverage and price, and membership is not even required.

From my understanding is that if the vaccinated can catch and transmit the virus there can be an opportunity for the virus to replicate and mutate (good or bad).

Yeah, yeah, but that's no excuse. The vaccinated are still much less likely to catch and transmit. It's still the unvaxed that cause the most problems.

 

[tursiops]

It seems that currently the vaccinated public also have high transmission rates. Which to me is why I find it laughable when places only test the unvaccinated, if they are testing it should be everyone.

CDC Announces 79% of All US Omicron Cases Have Occurred in Vaccinated Individuals

As the omicron variant spreads, the CDC has reported that the majority of those getting it have actually been fully vaccinated.

www.westernjournal.com

That's just simple statistics. The Vaccinated are no more or no less likely to get infected, if you ignore the possibly more dangerous behavior of the vaccinated. If you have 100 people, and 80% are vaccinated, and everybody is equally likely to get infected, then, Yes, 80% of those who ae infected will already have been vaccinated. that does NOT prove you are move likely to get infected if you are vaccinated. You are more likely to get infected if you behave in less cautious ways, like ignoring masks and/or spending time in crowds, just the kind of thing that someone who is vaccinated and now feels impervious does.

 

[waterone]

I doubt that anyone really wants that. They want to pass and go.

I know the less invasive the better for me.

Significant medical coverage and repatriation have always been my main reason for trip insurance and insisting on my family doing the same. Getting injured, seriously ill, or dead on a trip is always a risk better accepted at home. I was lucky in my younger and dumber days as I would have been screwed without it. Our claims so far have been for being delayed returning like when I was in Roatan on 9-11-01, when my granddaughter got careless with her passport in China - a foreigner can't do anything without one and had to start claims before she could even get a hotel, and when I careless lost electronics, but the risks are greater.

It is an absolute worthwhile expense for the "just in case".

DAN's Trip Insurance is really impressive in coverage and price, and membership is not even required.

I am fairly sure that they use Generali. Last time I purchased a policy directly through Generali it was a fair amount cheaper for what seemed like a better policy. So, you might want to check that out for your next trip.

Yeah, yeah, but that's no excuse. The vaccinated are still much less likely to catch and transmit. It's still the unvaxed that cause the most problems.

I was only stating that it is indeed plausible when the vaccinated can acquire and spread the virus. However, I am not on the same boat in the belief that the unvaxed cause the most problems. I think false security in both vaxxed and some unvaxxed has caused more issues.

There are now studies stating that the unvaxxed that have had covid will have lasting protection, so give it some more time and the entire world will soon be vaxxed.

That's just simple statistics.

statistics and polls are a funny thing. If you mess with the numbers long enough...anything is possible.

If you have 100 people, and 80% are vaccinated, and everybody is equally likely to get infected, then, Yes, 80% of those who ae infected will already have been vaccinated. that does NOT prove you are move likely to get infected if you are vaccinated.

I never said or meant to imply that by being vaxxed that you are more likely to get infected, only that being vaxxed seems to have high transmission rates as well.

You are more likely to get infected if you behave in less cautious ways, like ignoring masks and/or spending time in crowds, just the kind of thing that someone who is vaccinated and now feels impervious does.

Very true.

 

[ReefHound]

That's just simple statistics. The Vaccinated are no more or no less likely to get infected, if you ignore the possibly more dangerous behavior of the vaccinated. If you have 100 people, and 80% are vaccinated, and everybody is equally likely to get infected, then, Yes, 80% of those who ae infected will already have been vaccinated. that does NOT prove you are move likely to get infected if you are vaccinated. You are more likely to get infected if you behave in less cautious ways, like ignoring masks and/or spending time in crowds, just the kind of thing that someone who is vaccinated and now feels impervious does.

If 79% omicron cases are in the vaccinated, what is the current vaccination rate?

 

[tursiops]

If 79% omicron cases are in the vaccinated, what is the current vaccination rate?

Where? Ages?
80% plus for folks 50 and older. 99%+ for age 65+ in 13 states.

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

 

[ReefHound]

Where? Ages?
80% plus for folks 50 and older. 99%+ for age 65+ in 13 states.

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

Same demographic as the 79% figure, whatever that may be.