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I've always had a thought that there are probably quite a few certified Rescue Divers who don't review skills often. Please vote if you are a Rescue Diver or above.
Rescue Diver review poll
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we are required to requalify annually to teach/volunteer with our university program. This includes demonstration of practical skills as well as maintaining Basic Life Support certifications. This is done in the fall semester and we do contend review in the spring. I didn't vote since there wasn't really a result that qualifies for that.
I think any instructor needs to abstain though since every time you teach a rescue course you are "reviewing" everything.
I think any instructor needs to abstain though since every time you teach a rescue course you are "reviewing" everything.
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Instructors who feel the teaching of Rescue & CPR they do is enough to be always able to perform the stuff themselves could probably vote the 4th option. I think it probably depends on how often you teach those courses. We only have them maybe once or possibly twice a year here. If I were an instructor here that wouldn't be enough for me to feel good about my abilities to perform the stuff. But that's just me.
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Side issue-- I know that most "pros" are required by their shop to do this to remain active teaching. If that's not the case (you're not working for a shop, etc.), what happens if 2 years expires and you then give CPR to someone? Are you more liable for a bad outcome than if you had renewed CPR within the 2 years? What does an "up to date" CPR card do for you?
As far as the Rescue card itself, it is good for life with no official refresher, pro or not, I believe.
The CPR card is not a “license” to perform CPR.
Some employers, occupational licensing boards, and certifying agencies require employees, registrants, and licensees to maintain current certification. For these people, the cards show that someone fulfilled the requirements of a given certification training curriculum on a given date.
A current or lapsed card does not give you more or less protection from liability claims under Good Samaritan laws.
If emergencies arise, holders of expired certifications should not let the expiration deter them from acting.
1. if you give someone CPR with an expired card or no card you will not be held liable (USA). you can't make a dead person worse.
2. some workplaces and roles require you to hold a "current" cert - boat captain/crew, active dive pro at a particular LDS, etc.
3. PADI itself doesn't mandate that you are current - but the Member code of Practice certainly could be held up as an argument that you should be.
4. You are correct - EFR doesn't "expire" and PADI just came out to reinforce that,
EFR Provider-Level Cards Do Not Expire
EFR course completion cards denote that the bearer completed training on a specific date, as indicated on the card. Provider level courses carry a recommendation that skills are best refreshed within two years of course completion. This does not mean that the card or skills have an expiration date. For example, EFR providers can continue to offer skills in an emergency, regardless of when they completed training. The two-year period is a reminder to refresh periodically.
If your student is using an EFR provider level card to meet a professional requirement which requires proof of CPR and/or first aid training within the last two years, and it is beyond two years since training was completed, see EFR Training Extension for Workplace Requirements, below.
In areas where social distancing does not currently allow first aid and CPR training, you can provide refresher training via an instructor-led webinar
I’m not a certified Rescue Diver, so I didn’t vote. However, I recently took a Marine Life Injury class through DAN/PADI and CPR came up as part of the study material which made me think I should get re-certified. Doing some research I found that the American Heart Association has training videos on their website for compression only CPR. They state that taking training is great but that anyone is capable of doing the basic “Are you ok?, call 911, begin compressions to the tune of the Disco hit ‘Stying Alive’ “ (That last part always cracks me up). Ultimately, never let the lack of formal training stop you from attempting to save a life. Again, I am not answering your original question, and I do believe training and practice are important, I am only addressing your above questions regarding CPR with an expired (or no) card.
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