That is what I use, I also spray a little on my wrists before I take the suit off.50/50 mix of water and conditioner in a spray bottle. Lube neck/wrist seals with it before putting on. Works really well for me.
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That is what I use, I also spray a little on my wrists before I take the suit off.50/50 mix of water and conditioner in a spray bottle. Lube neck/wrist seals with it before putting on. Works really well for me.
50/50 mix of water and conditioner in a spray bottle. Lube neck/wrist seals with it before putting on. Works really well for me.
I winced when I saw the title. Glad it was just a minor issue of how to upgrade to a workable dry glove system. Lots of good suggestions here, good luck!
Lots of solutions offered but everyone seems to have missed the point I'm trying to make, I want to try and use Kubis or WP Ultimas (the two dryglove systems I already own!) along with the seal system I already have as these two systems kubi/WP Ultima have proved to be the least likely to leak. I'm happy with them just really want the added protection of having the seal incase a catastrophic leak breaks out and I'm at 30 meters or so on a single tank in freezing British inland dive site / quarry conditions
If I could find some longer seals to put onto my suit then I think that would be an easy solution for me, but I am yet to find them
I don't think anyone has missed your point at all. The forum is just offering you sensible solutions. Take a look at what you are asking and stating what you want to do:
1. You have a cuff/seal system that provides the means to use replaceable wrist seals and is designed to integrate with drygloves.
2. You want to add a seal to then add another cuff/glove system on top of that.
3. You want a suggestion for a longer wrist seal but have not provided dimensions of what you have compared to what you want....a simple google search for "latex extralong wrist seal" turns this up, perhaps it will work for you:
Bare Latex Conical Wrist Seal HD, Scubastore
or this :
Extralong conical Latex Seals - Deepstop GmbH
or perhaps this:
Latex arm seal extra long, conical / pair, 21,20 €
I have not used the Kubis but my wife and I have used the Si-tech Glove Lock and its derivative the Si-Tech Virgo as well as the Waterproof Ultima DGS....From our experience, the Si-Tech Glove Lock and Virgo are every bit as dry as the Waterproof Ultima...the Glove Lock and Virgo are just bulkier systems compared to the WP Ultimas....but that does not seem to be an issue for you given you are ready to stack a system on top of another.
I just checked the gluing guide (attached to this post) for the Si-Tech PU rings (the base of their systems)....the diameter of the PU rings for for the QCS oval system is slightly tapered at 320mm at its narrowest and 320 at its widest points. The Quick Cuff PU rings that you have are designed to be glued in different ways depending on the size of the sleeve of your suit but for gluing inside the sleeve there is a section that tapers from 305mm to 310mm.
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If you are deadset on a system like the WP Ultimas then you should have the PU ring from the QCS oval system test fitted and if it will work then have them glued in....you will not need to buy the complete system, just the PU rings....the Ultimas have a rigid wring that will replaces the one from the complete QCS oval system...then mount your seal of choice and you have a proper wrist seal system with ability to use one of the glove systems you want.....instead of a bodge.
BTW, there is nothing wrong with altering the sleeve to work with Kubis...sure it will add to the installation cost but it can and has been done...just find a competent shop to do the work if you go that route.
What you have suggested doing, the bodge of connecting one system to another, is also doable, but it is a bodge, is bulky, and is not nearly the best solution given what is available on the market today.
But a bodge will work so if that is what you want to do then go for it. Just realized that in the long-term the cheaper bodge solution may prove to be more expensive.
-Z