Which cert card to present

[bl6394]

What professional obligations does a DM have when they are just out diving for fun?

None.

Not true - depending upon the agency. While I can't speak for other agencies, as a PADI professional - I'm obliged to make an incident report on any incident I witness or am involved in...

Per the 3rd Qtr 2016 Training Bulletin:

"As part of your PADI Membership Agreement, you agree to file a PADI Incident Report form with PADI for any incident relating to your activities as a PADI Member. Additionally, PADI Standards require you to “submit a PADI Incident Report Form to your PADI Office immediately after you witness or are involved in a diving or dive operation-related accident/incident, regardless of whether the incident occurred in or out of the water; is training related, recreational, technical or seemingly insignificant.”

 

[DMDavid]

UPDATE: Because of this thread I presented my DM card yesterday at one of the North Florida springs and much to my surprise I received an unsolicited discount of approximately 35% off the normal rate.

Lesson learned: Always put your best foot (card) forward.

 

[sheeper]

UPDATE: Because of this thread I presented my DM card yesterday at one of the North Florida springs and much to my surprise I received an unsolicited discount of approximately 35% off the normal rate.

Lesson learned: Always put your best foot (card) forward.

it pays to know! I rarely dive with an op where i'm not known or have a connection to. That rare time on a "pure" vacation, it will depend on what i'm doing and how the op runs. I usually let the op know i'm an instructor but keep it low key. I gently refuse to be buddied with someone who needs extra "help" when i'm in vacation mode

 

[DMDavid]

I gently refuse to be buddied with someone who needs extra "help" when i'm in vacation mode

I'm always in vacation mode.

 

[DivemasterDennis]

What professional obligations does a DM have when they are just out diving for fun?

Depends. And by the way not all of us lawyers are bottom feeders. I for one have excellent buoyancy. If yo90u are acting as a DM, your liability is to act with due care and the ordinary skills of a DM. If you are on a recreational dive, and assume a rescue role or leader role, your standard of conduct will be higher than a less credentialed diver. However, credentials alone don't set the standard, it's credentials plus experience. Anyway, its a complex question, with a simple answer: assume you are always a divemaster and always dive with appropriat4 safe diving practices.

 

[Diver0001]

An instructor friend says that when he is diving for fun somewhere he presents only his OW cert card because he doesn't want to expose himself to the expectations of an instructor or DM, not that he wouldn't pitch in and help in an emergency.
So my question is...what do you people who are DM, instructor, or even just Rescue Diver, etc, do when you go to a resort where you are unknown? Present your lowest or highest cert card?

I never lie about it and I never have trouble with it.

R..

 

[charlier]

While in Mauritius, my wife and I discussing dive plans with a LDS. They asked us about our certifications. After we explained our certs and experience, they made a small group of instructors and DMs as a dive group. They separated all OW and even AOW divers. The owner explained that some dive sites are challenging with rapid negative entries and he found that it's always best to separate groups by experience and certs. The were totally chill about the discussion and wanted to make sure that every one had a good experience.

 

[Doby45]

Not true - depending upon the agency. While I can't speak for other agencies, as a PADI professional - I'm obliged to make an incident report on any incident I witness or am involved in...

Thank God I am not with PADI. I would hate to think a scuba agency could force me to file a report on an incident I was not even a party to.

 

[bl6394]

Thank God I am not with PADI. I would hate to think a scuba agency could force me to file a report on an incident I was not even a party to.

It is - what it is.

 

[kensuf]

Thank God I am not with PADI. I would hate to think a scuba agency could force me to file a report on an incident I was not even a party to.

If you're a leadership level (DM, AI, Instructor), most agencies will require an accident report if you were on-site even if you were not involved. All of the agencies I'm an instructor for require it.