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Thanks. As to the photo habit underwater it can definitely task load you - especially with a larger rig. Very easy to get distracted by that "One more shot", especially at depth, when you should be heading up the line.
Hose Routing Decision
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It's also a pointless point of drag.
It can also damage the environment if you decide to look at something very close to the bottom (or even a wall, it could easily snag into coral and break it)
The "AOW" method is much more streamlined when the first stage is in the mouth, to the point where it's not an entanglement hazard, so the picture isn't really telling the whole picture. If she unclipped it and brought it to her mouth in a normal swimming attitude, there wouldn't be a large hose loop, and it will be in her mouth unless it is being donated, in which case the whole point becomes moot anyway.
Having a shorter hose defeats the purpose of this type of routing. I don't find that tucking a 7' hose into my waistband is an issue, and it keeps the procedure for donation the same as when I'm diving doubles, including the same separation distance. I have broad shoulders and a big chest so a 5' hose doesn't work well. I wouldn't have an issue with the "AOW" style of routing either, I just don't happen to use it.
Another setup I've seen is a 90 degree on a shorter-than-standard second hose as well. Although I don't think it makes a lick of difference in practicality.
Personally, I just dive what is essentially a left post with a 7' primary added and don't have an issue with it, it isn't an entanglement hazard, and I don't have any danglies. First stage points down, or a first stage 90 adapter and a 5th port make for excellent streamlining with the first stage on a normal left post angle. I've never had a first stage 90 fail and on a recreational rig it's an added failure point that I'm perfectly happy risking considering I so rarely dive recreationally.
Having a shorter hose defeats the purpose of this type of routing. I don't find that tucking a 7' hose into my waistband is an issue, and it keeps the procedure for donation the same as when I'm diving doubles, including the same separation distance. I have broad shoulders and a big chest so a 5' hose doesn't work well. I wouldn't have an issue with the "AOW" style of routing either, I just don't happen to use it.
Another setup I've seen is a 90 degree on a shorter-than-standard second hose as well. Although I don't think it makes a lick of difference in practicality.
Personally, I just dive what is essentially a left post with a 7' primary added and don't have an issue with it, it isn't an entanglement hazard, and I don't have any danglies. First stage points down, or a first stage 90 adapter and a 5th port make for excellent streamlining with the first stage on a normal left post angle. I've never had a first stage 90 fail and on a recreational rig it's an added failure point that I'm perfectly happy risking considering I so rarely dive recreationally.
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and to beat the dead horse, in a wreck like you are penetrating, you have the very real possibility of that corrugated hose catching on something and getting sliced open which means you lose your buoyancy. Get that thing at least tied up with a bungee DIR style onto the d-ring before you decide to shorten the hose.
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I tried a bungee on the hose/d ring and didn't like it as I sometimes had to adjust my trim to vent. It also seemed to remove the ability to freely pull dump as the bungee would hook into the ribs on the corrugated hose. Maybe I didn't have it set up properly, but nevertheless, I picked up one of those hose magnets for a couple bucks and attached it to the inflator hose and my left d ring and it has worked great. Strong enough to hold my inflator tight to my body, yet I still have the ability to fully elevate the hose without a downward bend in the hose. The other nice thing is even if I don't intentionally bring it back to the magnet it typically finds its way back and re-secures itself.
I'm sure it's not "DIR" approved, but seems to work a lot better.
I'm sure it's not "DIR" approved, but seems to work a lot better.
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Hey CuzzA can you forward info on the hose magnet please . I had never heard of it. Reason I have not gotten a shorter one is I have been considering a safe second (Atomic) and figured the extra length may work out better with it. I am now leaning away from the safe 2nd. So its either bungee to the D ring or shorter hose... But this magnet thing sounds interesting !
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probably one of those. Personally I don't see a need for it when a loop of bungee works quite well, but to each his own. These magnets do have their use, I'm just not sure this is one of them
probably one of those. Personally I don't see a need for it when a loop of bungee works quite well, but to each his own. These magnets do have their use, I'm just not sure this is one of them
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Sure. Magnetic-Hose-Holder-Black-Body
I should clarify I use a ScubaPro Air2. I replaced my corrugated hose and inflator hose to the length I felt comfortable with. Since it ended up a little longer than a typical short inflator setup I needed a way to secure it and this magnet has worked great. Very streamlined which is a top priority for me.
Here's a picture of how they work. There's two screws that capture the hose. They are strong neodymium magnets and therefore will eventually rust after a lot of use. You can put a very thin wipe of silicone over it to extend the life. I always spray my gear with food grade silicone spray and that works well too.
I should clarify I use a ScubaPro Air2. I replaced my corrugated hose and inflator hose to the length I felt comfortable with. Since it ended up a little longer than a typical short inflator setup I needed a way to secure it and this magnet has worked great. Very streamlined which is a top priority for me.
Here's a picture of how they work. There's two screws that capture the hose. They are strong neodymium magnets and therefore will eventually rust after a lot of use. You can put a very thin wipe of silicone over it to extend the life. I always spray my gear with food grade silicone spray and that works well too.
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CuzzA
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Yes, I should have said on a standard short inflator I didn't have any issues although it still had the potential for line wrapping it when fishing.
One thing that also made an improvement was to adjust the Velcro shoulder strap thingy up all the way to the top of my shoulder. This helped to prevent the hose from somehow finding itself behind me.
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I also use a little bungee loop and it is golden. Will get pic tomorrow.
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