Do you pay double just to support LDS?

[leabre]

I find it a little unsettling when a week ago I was in there and looked at a BP/W combo that was on special and the owner said hmmm, that is a good deal. Then I go in this week and the same combo goes from $1400 to $2000. WTF, seems kind of shady to me!

Wow! What kind of BP/w cost $1,400? Even the SP BP/w I saw for first time last week was close to $600 retail in an insanely old fashioned maximal profit type of shop. A decent Halcyon or UTD system doesn't run more than $700 usually but even Tobins DSS rigs are roughly $525.

If I saw a shop charging $1,400 - $2,000 for a BP that is not gold plated then I'd shop elsewhere.

 

[Kiwi303]

Wow, you're "only 30" and you've never had sex with a woman. Do your thoughts turn to livestock?

Odd... How do you get from my being willing to pay extra for extra *Ahem* servicing... to accusing me of being a virgin?


Using the same "Logic" or lack of it as you used, I come to the conclusion you are too odious to get laid voluntarily by a woman, and too poor to pay a call girls fee, and therefore are a bitter and twisted emotional wreck.

I pity your livestock...

 

[ColdH2O]

Wow! What kind of BP/w cost $1,400? Even the SP BP/w I saw for first time last week was close to $600 retail in an insanely old fashioned maximal profit type of shop. A decent Halcyon or UTD system doesn't run more than $700 usually but even Tobins DSS rigs are roughly $525.

If I saw a shop charging $1,400 - $2,000 for a BP that is not gold plated then I'd shop elsewhere.

I should have clarified the combo part, the combo included a cheaper regulator as well, but still isn't worth $2000.

 

[spectrum]

I have been pricing out gear at the LDS with places like leisure pro & have found some stuff to be twice the price at the LDS. For instance a Sherwood Wisdom 2 @ LDS was $1200, online store $600. Other stuff I have priced is the same way, I know service and warranty is easier if you buy local but at what cost. I feel bad not supporting the LDS but when you can buy twice as much gear somewhere else for the same cost, it is justifiable is it not?

Double? Certainly not.

I will pay some % more to support local enterprise, for the benefit of trying on, touching, feeling and the convenience of walking out the door on the spot with the item.

BTW, bartering is the exchange of services or goods thus avoiding or reducing cash handling while. If you just want to pay less dicker or negotiate.

Beware that many low prices are for prior year good or have other less obvious catches. Some shops are just priced out of this world.

Pete

 

[Firefyter]

Double? Certainly not.

I will pay some % more to support local enterprise, for the benefit of trying on, touching, feeling and the convenience of walking out the door on the spot with the item.

Emphasis mine. The convenience of walking out the door on the spot with the item is the only reason I'll pay more. I don't feel obligated to buy a car from a dealer when I test drive it, so I'm not going to feel obligated to buy from an LDS just because I've tried it on. You want my money? Earn it like I did. I'm not going to take food from my kids mouths just to feed yours....

 

[spectrum]

Emphasis mine. The convenience of walking out the door on the spot with the item is the only reason I'll pay more. I don't feel obligated to buy a car from a dealer when I test drive it, so I'm not going to feel obligated to buy from an LDS just because I've tried it on. You want my money? Earn it like I did. I'm not going to take food from my kids mouths just to feed yours....

No need to go back and forth on this one but I can see the price before I try an item on. I have a personal ethical issue with using the LDS as a fitting room for online purchases. I'll dicker before trying if there may be an issue.

 

[Mike]

The mark up at the LDS is too much, and they all stick together locally to keep the price inflated, and then complain or tell tales of doom about gear bought online. Lower the price closer to online, as most reasonable people realize a B&M business needs to make a profit, now sell a bigger volume, carry some "cool" looking gear, carry wetnotes instead of giant plastic toy slates, SELL bolt snaps and cave line instead of snappy coils.... Have something in your store that I must buy everytime I walk in, instead of looking at the sad pile of pink wrist lanyards and dusty inflateable float balls....and stop letting the industry suppliers hold you hostage. Making a deal starts with getting a better price from the supplier. If the shops banded together that way..hey aqualung/scubapro, you aren't going to sell another reg in western canada UNLESS you give all us shops as a group your best price. Why not? Eveyone wins locally, scubapro wins, otherwise we are going to buy and market brands that are more cooperative.

I'm gonna guess you're an employee of somebody else?

I'd like to see your dive shop you're going to open and do all that, how you'll pay for all the inventory, pay somebody to order it, pay somebody to sell it, pay somebody to keep up with getting rid of the old gear that sits on your shelf and pay for the new gear, all the while people like yourself are going on line and buying a 'bolt' for $1.00 less.

What madness over takes people in America? What created Wal-mart and all the damage it's done to this country and you want to Walmart all the dive shops just so you can buy what you want? If you can't afford to dive then don't buy something you can't afford.

Please explain why a LDS needs a higher mark up? Do you think dive shop owners just mark up their goods to these prices so they can pay for their mansions, their Lear jets? You don't think it has something to do with a profit and loss statement? Something to do with expenses and what a business needs to sell something for? Or you all just think they make up these prices in a back room and then they all get together to swim in the money they make like Scrooge Mc Duck?

A lot of people need to get a clue. Or quit their jobs sucking off the teat of an employer and go out there and start their own business and show us all how to sell at a 15% markup and meet all your bills.

First step would be for you to bust out a calculator and discover that you price your services based on your costs and a profit margin, not some fantasy of what you want to sell your goods at, competing against an online business with 90% less expenses.

 

[ColdH2O]

A lot of people need to get a clue. Or quit their jobs sucking off the teat of an employer and go out there and start their own business and show us all how to sell at a 15% markup and meet all your bills.

First step would be for you to bust out a calculator and discover that you price your services based on your costs and a profit margin, not some fantasy of what you want to sell your goods at, competing against an online business with 90% less expenses.

Well if your so smart, then you tell me why I can hop on a ferry for an hour and $50, to go buy the same equipment @ 40% less at a LDS near Seattle? They don't seem to have problems paying their bills!

 

[Mike]

Why would you waste your time and money going to Seattle when you could sit in your underwear and buy it even cheaper on line?

 

[ColdH2O]

Why would you waste your time and money going to Seattle when you could sit in your underwear and buy it even cheaper on line?

I am just saying, how can 2 shops 50 miles apart be that different on prices? Obviously something is wrong!