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It's not that long hose doesn't work with traditional buddies! The long hose is fine. The calm sharing of gas and hands-off ascent only works with someone who's been trained to do it, or someone who either wasn't OUT of gas, or wasn't worked up about it. I wouldn't ever do a hands-off air-share with someone who was severely shaken or panicky, no matter what kind of hose they ran out of gas with . . .
 
You chose wisely taking a GUE class for more training.

Congratulations!!
 
HT, I have never thought that there was a problem with people with different hose lengths diving with each other. Up until now I've had short hoses, yet I've been diving uncountable times with divers with long hoses. Some of them have been full DIR divers, others have just been people who've adopted the long-hose configuration because it made sense to them.

To me, the key seems to be simply ensuring that you do a proper pre-dive buddy check. I know that if I'm diving with someone with the long-hose bungied-octo config, they're going to donate their primary to me and breathe off their octo. And they know that I'm going to donate my octo to them, because it's on a longer hose than my primary.

My husband, on the other hand, has (well, had!) an Air2 so, even though he didn't have the long-hose config, he would donate his primary and breathe off the reg on his inflator hose.

Point being, I don't think there is anything INHERENTLY wrong with DIR and non-DIR (short-hosed) people diving together -- as long as they know what each person has, and what to do in an OOA situation. That's what buddy checks are for.

I also don't think that Ross-O was saying that long hose/short hose doesn't work well together. I think he was just pointing out that a diver trained in GUE practices, but diving with someone who is NOT, needs to remember that their buddy is not necessary going to do what we learned in class. I think that's good advice - especially for someone fresh outa class who has just been through four intense days of hammering those skills and practices into place. :)

I think your post only serves to perpetuate the "Us vs Them" thing, which the DIR community seems to be working pretty hard to end. It really doesn't have to be that way. It's NOT a religion, it's not a cult. It's just a style of diving. :)
 
LeeAnn, never stop asking WHY. Ask your GUE instructor why as much as you need to.
 
You chose wisely taking a GUE class for more training.

Congratulations!!

Garsh, thanks! And on that topic - the diver who is going to join me in this class has been working hard to figure out the schedule for our class, given conflicts that we both have. What it looks like it's going to be is a Sunday, followed by a Sat/Sun, followed by a Sat. Which means the final two days, which I understand are spent mostly in the water, are going to be six days apart.

Does anyone see any problems with this? Everyone I know who took the class did the final two days over a full weekend, but we don't have that option. Whaddaya think? Will that work?

I'd love to do the weekend at Catalina, but we just can't seem to make that work, what with Thanksgiving and various other conflicts. I'm not even sure where we'll do our dive days - we could probably do a day trip to Catalina on that 2nd Sunday, but then the final day (Sat.) he has to be at the airport that evening, so we might have to do shore dives. I pray the conditions are okay!
 
Garsh, thanks! And on that topic - the diver who is going to join me in this class has been working hard to figure out the schedule for our class, given conflicts that we both have. What it looks like it's going to be is a Sunday, followed by a Sat/Sun, followed by a Sat. Which means the final two days, which I understand are spent mostly in the water, are going to be six days apart.

Does anyone see any problems with this? Everyone I know who took the class did the final two days over a full weekend, but we don't have that option. Whaddaya think? Will that work?

Yes, I actually think this is a better schedule and how I did my fundies experience dives. The pre-diving briefing, the experience dives and the video review of your experience dives make for one long tiring day. Not, having to get up and do it all over again the very next day gives you a chance to rest. It also gives you the week to go out and practice some of the skills if you want and have the time.
 
I am definitely a believer in longer classes. When I was 1st looking into OW classes I thought I wanted the wham-bam-thank you-mam 2 day class. I am so glad I went with a class that lasted about a month instead. It gives you more time to let things soak in and ask more questions or whatever you need.

So I am a little disappointed that my class will be 4 straight days. But I am sure I will get over it.
 
By the way, Spg01 - you have the best avatar on SB! (From a MAJOR Pink Floyd fan!)
 
I think you'll benefit greatly from having the class broken up that way. I got REALLY tired during my Fundamentals class. And you'll have time to reflect, and possibly even to get in the water to work things out.
 
Of course this might remove some of the spiritual intensity that comes when you're dog tired but forced to continue learning...kinda like EST! Isn't that why those things work - they get you so physically and mentally exhausted that you'll believe anything? :wink:
 

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