California Classifies Lead "Hazardous Material"

[fstbttms]

Lead was used in paint for tens if not over a hundred years. People weren't dying left and right.

Jeezus. It isn't about your exposure to lead. It's about what heavy metals do to the animals in the coastal marine environment.

 

[Peter_C]

Jeezus. It isn't about your exposure to lead. It's about what heavy metals do to the animals in the coastal marine environment.

I would say it could well be about your child's exposure. After all children are more susceptible to lead poisoning. So far banning lead from paint and gasoline has been working to stave off the larger contamination issues. The marine environment does effect us, just look at mercury poisoning. We can not even eat more than one fish from the San Francisco Bay without going over the poisoning limits for mercury.

"In 1991, the CDC reduced the lead level "of concern" for children from 30 micrograms to 10 micrograms per deciliter of blood, but the Johns Hopkins findings suggest that even levels below 10 present a health risk, providing the first evidence that lead levels that low may impair kidney function.

"To our knowledge, this is the first study to show that very low levels of lead may impact kidney function in healthy children, which underscores the need to minimize sources of lead exposure," says lead investigator Jeffrey Fadrowski, M.D. M.H.S., a pediatric nephrologist at Hopkins Children's.?"

Lead contamination effecting childrens kidneys

 

[dannobee]

Lead exposure in children usually manifests itself in lower IQ scores, and increasing lead exposure from 2 micrograms/dL to 30 micrograms/dL decreases a child's IQ by about 10 points.

Maybe some of you were actually gnawing on lead based paints as children.

Jordan, if you need more lead, call me up. I still have a couple hundred pounds as long as you promise not to chew on them.

 

[EGad]

Maybe some of you were actually gnawing on lead based paints as children.

You mean wall candy???

 

[Peter_C]

Maybe some of you were actually gnawing on lead based paints as children.

No I just went fishing No one told me better. I do remember leaded fuel finally going away when I was 19 years old. Soil contamination by freeways is still an issue. That means the food grown by a freeway can be contaminated.

FWIW the lower income children are harder hit by lead contamination because they do chew on lead based paint. Read the article I posted.

You mean wall candy???

I need to smelt up a lead tail weight for my doubles...

 

[DA Aquamaster]

There is a difference between lead in paint and in fuel additives and the lead used in wheel weights. An ounce of lead used in a chemical compund is going to be much more pervasive in the environment than an ounce of lead in a solid wheel weight.

That solid chunk of lead, if it ends up in coastal waters at all, is going to be embedded in the bottom and that will pretty much take it out of circluation. Silt deposition has been doing that efficiently for billions of years with heavy metals, various carbon compounds, etc. What makes lead dangerous in the environment is when it is broken down to lead molecules or very small bits of lead for industrial use.

Banning lead wheel weights is just another one of those totally ineffective and meaningless "feel good" laws that end up costing everyone a lot of money and results in no significant benefit to anyone.

 

[Couv]

....Banning lead wheel weights is just another one of those totally ineffective and meaningless "feel good" laws that end up costing everyone a lot of money and results in no significant benefit to anyone.

"Sometimes people do things that, well, just don't make no sense." ....Gump

If you don't have enough sense not to smoke or eat lead, perhaps diving isn't the best sport for you.

 

[dannobee]

The theory is that the wheel weights that fall off of cars (estimated to be 500,000 lbs/yr) get "ground down by passing vehicles," then the lead gets washed down storm drains.

They've been banned in the EU since 2005, btw.

I don't have a dog in this fight, so I really don't care one way or the other, but I did see a few blue rockfish rushing over to pick at the lead pellets out of a rotted soft weight that I was scavenging.

Lead shotgun shells were also banned because of the animal ingestion problem.

There is a difference between lead in paint and in fuel additives and the lead used in wheel weights. An ounce of lead used in a chemical compund is going to be much more pervasive in the environment than an ounce of lead in a solid wheel weight.

That solid chunk of lead, if it ends up in coastal waters at all, is going to be embedded in the bottom and that will pretty much take it out of circluation. Silt deposition has been doing that efficiently for billions of years with heavy metals, various carbon compounds, etc. What makes lead dangerous in the environment is when it is broken down to lead molecules or very small bits of lead for industrial use.

Banning lead wheel weights is just another one of those totally ineffective and meaningless "feel good" laws that end up costing everyone a lot of money and results in no significant benefit to anyone.

 

[Belmont]

Why not replace lead with depleted uranium. Much more density less volume, and heck, the US army has used it in ammo, last time in Irak.

 

[NETim]

The steel wheel weights will be great until someone notices the rust on their pretty Porsche wheels.

This situation must be approached with some common sense. An outright ban on ALL lead products isn't common sense IMHO.