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Are you saying an instructors patch is not an accomplishment?

Yes. You're an instructor without the patch

Do you have a bumper sticker on your car that says you have a driver's license?
 
I'm saying the patches I've seen displayed are for classes that I consider substandard.

Ahhh...so your issue is not the patches but that they come from (my guess PADI) some substandard group?

What if they were all NAUI patches? What about GUE?

BTW...what is a "good" standard for learning to dive? Honestly curious as to your view on this.
 
Yes. You're an instructor without the patch

Do you have a bumper sticker on your car that says you have a driver's license?

Nope...but I do have one that says I am a pilot...and my wife's has a dive flag.

I guess I should just pull them off. Again...we have someone come to disdain people that somehow visibly show their accomplishments. I just find that sad.....
 
It is starting to dawn on me that maybe other agencies besides PADI do not make patches, and that there may be some inter agency rivalry going on with them. but is there a reason you would display it or not? is there a place to display it? is there a time to display it? or should it be tossed in the bin?

We assume a lot based on what we see, not based on fact. Just because you have an Air 2 does not mean you are a noob. full rental gear is assumed to be a noob, but maybe the airlines lost your gear. why would badges be any different.

would you be more likely to talk to someone with a bunch of badges or less? I think I will just get an "Emperor of the Borg" patch sewn in.
 
Nope...but I do have one that says I am a pilot...and my wife's has a dive flag.

I guess I should just pull them off. Again...we have someone come to disdain people that somehow visibly show their accomplishments. I just find that sad.....

I was responding to a question posed by the OP, but anyway...

Would you cease to be a pilot if you pulled your bumper sticker off?

Wear a badge/patch/bumper sticker if it makes you happy, I don't care

To return to my earlier analogy, does having a driver's license make you a good driver?

What I find sad is the many AOW/Rescue/MSD/DM divers out there that don't have a clue
 
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AquaExplorer:
Ahhh...so your issue is not the patches but that they come from (my guess PADI) some substandard group?

Not necessarily. There are some classes that are silly regardless of who might teach them because quite frankly there's no need for them. Boat diving is an excellent example. YMCA had a boat diving specialty. I never taught it because the concept is silly. If you need to take a boat diving specialty your OW class was, in my opinion, substandard. The same applies to various other specialties like buoyancy. It doesn't make you a bad person, you just got ripped off. I'm not aware of any agency that has an adequate, again in my opinion, AOW class. There are some agencies that have additional advanced classes that are excellent, but none of them that I know about are called AOW. There are some that I would dismiss because of the agency, but only because the agency sells the certification without a specific class.

I wish everyone wore their patches.

AquaExplorer:
What if they were all NAUI patches? What about GUE?

What if they were. NAUI's AOW is slightly better than the others, but not by all that much. I can't put my hands on NAUI's standards right this minute, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have a silly class or two. I've heard good things about GUE, but I have no first hand knowledge of them. What I've read about their DIRF class is that it teaches folks things they should have learned in previous classes, but didn't. At least they are trying to help folks who've been ripped off by other people and not trying to make up for their own lack of instruction in previous classes.

AquaExplorer:
BTW...what is a "good" standard for learning to dive? Honestly curious as to your view on this.

If you have to ask that question, you haven't read many of my posts. Check out the sticky about finding an excellent class in the New Divers forum. You'll see what I believe is important.

SailNaked:
It is starting to dawn on me that maybe other agencies besides PADI do not make patches, and that there may be some inter agency rivalry going on with them.

Nope. I have a stack of YMCA patches that came with various certifications. I know they're around here somewhere because I rarely throw things away.
 
OK so you have been doing the instruction game awhile and now you have a pile of nice badges that came with your certifications. If you do a search here on SB you will discover that there is a stigma against displaying them proudly on a dive trip. OK so what do you do with them? There is not any rank in diving but we do say things like a "higher level of diving" so how come I cant display my badges? I earned them, they gave them to me? and they might save me from listening to a nublits silly story about the time he dove to 60 ft and almost died when he discovered he had 300# of air.

I do not want to be the "look at me, I'm the Dude" kind of thing but I would like it known That I can teach 10 specialties if that were the case.

My latest idea is to sew them to my dive bag, that way it is not in your face on my chest or anything, but subtle. any thoughts Ideas on placement of the badges or should I just toss them and :shakehead: . unfortunately I was in the USMC and I like the Badges, What am I to do?

If you like badges then do with them as you wish however no one cares whether you can teach 10 specialties so there is little point to them.

People who are behind someone in traffic don't care if their bumper stickers alerts the world that they are a certified diver or someone who can fly a plane.

If you like badges and bumper stickers them wear/use them. It won't have the effect on most people that you would like however.

Are you more impressed by Michael Jordan or by someone who has a badge that says I'm an NBA player?

Is it impressive when the ice cream salesman driving through your neighborhood in the summer has a badge that says he graduated from "Ice cream University"?

If it makes him proud he should wear it but it doesn't necessarily have that effect on anyone else.
 
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