Not understanding the long hose thing

[cbrich]

Now, how do I attach my Air2 to the 7 foot hose?

You will need to a 7' foot corrigated hose, and an adapter for the Air 2 to a standard LP hose. You will also need to have your left arm lengthen to 7' also.

 

[Blackwood]

In order to find these quotes, I reread every post in the thread.

Now that's dedication!

 

[boulderjohn]

Now that's dedication!

There is a fine line between dedication and stupidity.

Actually, I only had to skim the ones I knew were pro 7' in search of advocacy statements, so it wasn't that hard.

 

[boulderjohn]

No one knows who fired the first shot…or why…It may have been a DIR zealot or it could have been from someone offended at the implication that they were ‘doing it wrong’. I have encountered a few of these zealots on both sides, they’re all asses.

My own contribution to this thread mentioned something along these lines. I used to be thoroughly turned off by ridiculously excessive statements of certain frequent SB posters who ranted about the need to use Hogarthian configurations in normal OW dives. I was then using a conventional rig, and I thought these people were, indeed, asses.

One in particular wrote on several occasions that every time an alternate in the triangle position is used, it comes loose, drags in the silt, and either becomes totally fouled or gets a torn diaphragm. Either way, according to his posts, no conventional alternate has ever been usable when needed. That was so outrageously absurd that it just infuriated me and made me never even want to consider using such a setup.

He's gone now--I haven't seen him post in several years. There are a couple of people who sometimes pop up with some evangelical nonsense, although nothing to that extreme.

People who overstate like that are truly counterproductive, for when you say things that contradict what people see with their own eyes, you lose all credibility. If you want people to consider your position objectively, you fail miserably this way, because they retreat to a more extreme position of their own to counter your excesses.

I think that this thread was remarkably free of excessive claims, and the fact that some people seem to think they were there probably reflects unfortunate past experiences they have had in other threads.

 

[mdb]

I agree that this thread has been very instructive-very free of flames and high jacks. A good go.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I used to be thoroughly turned off by ridiculously excessive statements of certain frequent SB posters who ranted about the need to use Hogarthian configurations in normal OW dives. I was then using a conventional rig, and I thought these people were, indeed, asses.

One in particular wrote on several occasions that every time an alternate in the triangle position is used, it comes loose, drags in the silt, and either becomes totally fouled or gets a torn diaphragm. Either way, according to his posts, no conventional alternate has ever been usable when needed. That was so outrageously absurd that it just infuriated me and made me never even want to consider using such a setup.

He's gone now--I haven't seen him post in several years. There are a couple of people who sometimes pop up with some evangelical nonsense, although nothing to that extreme.

It's odd how that works ... most of the truly excessive people who've passed through here over the years have moved on, and many aren't even diving anymore ... they're off being "the best" at something else now, I suppose ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

God, I wonder what they argued about back when everyone used double hoses and there were no long hoses? Maybe they argued about the length of the twin hoses or if you should turn it over or under to share air?
It must have been painfully boring back then when everyone used the same stuff.

 

[scubafanatic]

God, I wonder what they argued about back when everyone used double hoses and there were no long hoses? Maybe they argued about the length of the twin hoses or if you should turn it over or under to share air?
It must have been painfully boring back then when everyone used the same stuff.

...mighta been cool to see Mike Nelson (Seahunt) using a 7' double hose.....he sure had plenty of OOG situations back in the day.....

 

[fisheater]

...mighta been cool to see Mike Nelson (Seahunt) using a 7' double hose.....he sure had plenty of OOG situations back in the day.....

He did have a lot of OOA (no "gas" back then) situations, but it was typically with a scantily-clad, well-endowed young woman. He wanted to be close.

 

[ScubaInChicago]

He did have a lot of OOA (no "gas" back then) situations, but it was typically with a scantily-clad, well-endowed young woman. He wanted to be close.

That would be a perfect argument in my new thread;

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ba...15800-not-understanding-short-hose-thing.html

I would switch back to a short hose for that cause....