Banana drama

[DandyDon]

There, fixed it for you

Well, I guess you could buy the boat, hire the Captain, and give him orders - but over a banana...? You see, it's his boat. You can respect his ownership and authority or get off. If you cause problems at sea in US water, he can call the Coast Guard to remove you at sea, and then there's bail, court, fines, etc....

Is respect that difficult for you "my money makes me right" tyrants....??

 

[Hickdive]

Well, I guess you could buy the boat, hire the Captain, and give him orders - but over a banana...? You see, it's his boat. You can respect his ownership and authority or get off. If you cause problems at sea in US water, he can call the Coast Guard to remove you at sea, and then there's bail, court, fines, etc....

Is respect that difficult for you "my money makes me right" tyrants....??

Oh dear, you seem to have missed my point entirely and, if you check, you'll see that I've made no comment about my money making me right (others have, but not me).

My point is that if I'm standing on deck, minding my own business and enjoying a banana and the skipper comes down from the wheelhouse, grabs the banana and tosses it overboard, who exactly is doing the footstomping and hand-wringing?

Please go back, read MY posts in this thread, and then come back and tell me where I've insisted that my money makes me right or even suggested that the skipper must do what I say because I'm the paying customer.

 

[Boxcar Overkill]

I don't know where you are, but I do think the superstition is more common in the states or western hemisphere.

More relevantly: If the captain did object, would you respect that...?

Before I answer that question, I would have to know what you mean by "respect that". If you mean "would I comply" than yes. If you mean, literally, "would I respect that", the answer is no. (Although if they were some poor worker from the third world, I might find it quaint, and excusable.)

I am happy to report I made my dives just fine. My boat driver had many silly superstitions, but it turns out the banana taboo wasn't one of them.

 

[DandyDon]

Oh dear, you seem to have missed my point entirely and, if you check, you'll see that I've made no comment about my money making me right (others have, but not me).

My point is that if I'm standing on deck, minding my own business and enjoying a banana and the skipper comes down from the wheelhouse, grabs the banana and tosses it overboard, who exactly is doing the footstomping and hand-wringing?

Please go back, read MY posts in this thread, and then come back and tell me where I've insisted that my money makes me right or even suggested that the skipper must do what I say because I'm the paying customer.

Yeah we determined long ago that the captain's reactions were a bit rude, too - but the "my money makes me right" posts continued. Sorry I painted you with that broad stroke. :blush:

Before I answer that question, I would have to know what you mean by "respect that". If you mean "would I comply" than yes. If you mean, literally, "would I respect that", the answer is no. (Although if they were some poor worker from the third world, I might find it quaint, and excusable.)

I am happy to report I made my dives just fine. My boat driver had many silly superstitions, but it turns out the banana taboo wasn't one of them.

Ok, respect it enough to comply politely was what I meant - as I do with most superstitions and religions.

 

[Boxcar Overkill]

Well, I guess you could buy the boat, hire the Captain, and give him orders - but over a banana...? You see, it's his boat. You can respect his ownership and authority or get off. If you cause problems at sea in US water, he can call the Coast Guard to remove you at sea, and then there's bail, court, fines, etc....

Is respect that difficult for you "my money makes me right" tyrants....??

There's a lot of curious things going on in your post.

1. Why do you think that you would have to post bail or pay a fine for failing to turn over your banana to the captain?

2. Given that the captain is the one that is making the problems in this hypo, why aren't you upset at captains who don't respect the rights of their passengers? You're all about respect, but only so long as it's limited to showing respect to captains. You've been fairly silent about the utter disrespect the captain is showing his customers by not politely advising them of the "no banana" policy back when they are at dock - a point when that could reasonably be taken care of.

3. Why do you think it odd for a passenger to make a big deal over a banana, but you say nothing of a captain who is willing to call the coast guard and try to have the passenger arrested over a banana?

4. The above two points, taken together, makes me think you are more interested in submission to authority, (which you believe the captain is) rather than just the common concept of respecting others. Otherwise, you would have had a lot more to write about the captains in this scenario, rather than just, "if it's his boat, he can tell you to do whatever he wants."

4. Do you think you were being respectful when you called us tyrants?

 

[Hickdive]

but the "my money makes me right" posts continued. Sorry I painted you with that broad stroke. :blush:

Thank you for your apology.

Anyway, the whole thread reminds me of this cartoon;

 

[Deefstes]

I don't know where you are, but I do think the superstition is more common in the states or western hemisphere.

You will find that the bad luck index of bananas (BLIoB) increases lineary with an increase in western longitudes. For every meridian that you travel west, the BLIoB roughly increase with a factor equal to the Avogadro constant.

Conversely, the BLIoB value gets negative if you travel east of the Greenwich meridian, meaning that bananas actually bring good luck on board in the eastern hemisphere to the same degree that they bring bad luck on board in the western hemisphere.

The real problem occurs when you cross the International Date Line carrying bananas on board as that will result in your amazing good luck to turn amazingly bad in an instant. From there the well known expression "Never attempt to cross the Bering Strait with bananas on board."

This expression in term gave rise to "Never cross a banana if you haven't got your bearings on board".

All of this might explain why the International Date Line is not a straight line but as skew as a banana.

 

[seaducer]

Like I said in a previous post, I have no desire to dive with much less be stuck on the same boat with a guy that will argue with the Captain, stomp his feet, wring his hands all over something as stupid as a banana.

Personally I wouldn't do any of those things. Unless of course the moron felw out of the wheelhouse, grabbed my personal property and threw it overboard. I don't care if it is just a banana or something more expensive. Then I am going to make a scene. Oh, too late, the captain already did huh?

If he just yells about the banana, well, I'll chuck it, and everyone will go back to having a good time, I am not going to ruin the day for everybody because I have to be subjected to the mindless drivel of some poopy head who happens to hold a captains license. I will show my displeasure in a much quieter way, back at port.

Interesting though, it seems as though it is perfectly ok for the captain to stomp his feet and wring his hands over something as stupid as a banana. Or did I read that wrong?

 

[Teamcasa]

Like I said in a previous post, I have no desire to dive with much less be stuck on the same boat with a guy that will argue with the Captain, stomp his feet, wring his hands all over something as stupid as a banana.

Personally I wouldn't do any of those things. Unless of course the moron felw out of the wheelhouse, grabbed my personal property and threw it overboard. I don't care if it is just a banana or something more expensive. Then I am going to make a scene. Oh, too late, the captain already did huh?

If he just yells about the banana, well, I'll chuck it, and everyone will go back to having a good time, I am not going to ruin the day for everybody because I have to be subjected to the mindless drivel of some poopy head who happens to hold a captains license. I will show my displeasure in a much quieter way, back at port.

Interesting though, it seems as though it is perfectly ok for the captain to stomp his feet and wring his hands over something as stupid as a banana. Or did I read that wrong?

Yes.
I’ve never seen a Captain go crazy or over-react, most just politely ask that people respect their wishes. I’m all about having a good time when I go diving. I’d hate to have anyone, Captain, crew or customer reduce my opportunity to have a great day diving by pitching a fit.

 

[1_T_Submariner]

Dang we got 300 posts.