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[Dive Junky]

but depending on the make of the wetsuit, either the water continually flushes thru the suit so your body is constantly expending energy in warming the water (ie, farmer john) or it can be trapped so your body works less in warming the cool water (ie semi dry)

cheers

If anyone has a suit where the water is continually flushed from their suit than they shouldn't be using it because it doesnt fit. Notice my quote from NAUIs basic book states ' To work properly'.

 

[Jeff Toorish]

This is why a snug suit is so important. What I posted is an exact quote from from NAUI's Basic book. sorry if you don't like the answer.

As far as the bubbles in the suit, I'm not arguing that point at all. It is ONE of the ways a wetsuit insulates.

The NAUI Basic Book is inaccurate on this point --heresy, I know.

It's a wetsuit, sung fit or not, it's not a semi-dry suit. It will flush. period.

But in an attempt to get this back on topic: this discussion shows just how many varying views there can be on an a single issue. Buddies have views and so do instructors. The purpose of courses, be they AOW or otherwise, is to teach a standard. That's something that can only be done in any practical manner by an instructor.

I strongly advocate OW and then an EANx Course and then AOW --in short order. That gives a student more time with diving professionals and a better chance of positively reinforcing skills --and hopefully not perfecting mistakes.

Jeff

 

[Sas]

Some of the courses that make up the AOW certification are pretty intuitive and straight forward, no doubt. But others are not and require someone who actually knows what that are talking about to teach --not to mention, have the proper safety training and equipment.

Yes I agree, as I mentioned with Deep.

I've certainly learned from people I dive with, as I'm sure we all have. But I can tell you, I have also heard some very innacurate information and that was my point --how do you know?

You can also have instructors that teach you badly too

Last time I checked, Wikipedia was not considered a course material reference for diving --which, returning to the OP, was my point. Buddies, and apparently other resources, are often sources of innacurate information.

Well Wikipedia agrees with all the other sites I found on the net, just not with what you said. Your answer is only part of the reason why and confused me as it disagreed with what I have been told about wetsuit properties as you discounted the trapped water reason.

 

[wreckchick]

OT (again)

None of my wetsuits constantly flush. If they did, I would know this since I would constantly be getting cool water against my skin. I do not. If I intentionally flush my suit, it's a pretty obvious thing temperature-wise. They do not because my suits fit me properly and/or have dams that restrict water flow so the suits can work as designed by keeping a thin layer of water between the suit and me.

It is possible that all available material as to the 'how' of wetsuits is incorrect but I find that scenario highly unlikely.

R

 

[Dive Junky]

The NAUI Basic Book is inaccurate on this point --heresy, I know.

Jeff

Perhaps someone should call these guys and tell them they dont know how a wetsuit works. Wetsuit Advice Information How to put on a Wetsuit - First Wetsuit

 

[Jeff Toorish]

You can also have instructors that teach you badly too

Yes you can --no doubt about that. Which is why I strongly believe students should take courses from different instrutors.

JT

 

[almitywife]

You can also have instructors that teach you badly too

Yes you can --no doubt about that. Which is why I strongly believe students should take courses from different instrutors.

JT

oh gosh yes!! in know a few divers that ever single course have been with the one instructor and they think the sun shines outta his butt.

but the guy has the worst reputation for rushing his students, not completing paperwork and being rude

i suspect for some reason they have concluded that him being an alpha male = good instructor for some reason

 

[Beachlover]

There are several of you who mentioned about my 100+ dives and TWO YEARS experience. As a matter of fact the first time I hit the water in the pool I knew that I had found a new home. Never had any MAJOR problems with buoyancy, weighting, finning technique, etc. I did use a little too much air at first but I conquered that problem quite smartly and in short order. But otherwise I took to diving like the proverbial duck did to water. My instructors and most of the dive ops who I am in contact with have stated that they were pretty much flabbergasted at the rapidity with which I learned the correct procedures of diving and the progression of my experience and that I surely had dived more in the past than I actually admitted to. One of you asked if I had taken the AOW "course" and the answer is NO. I contacted one of the posters on this forum about it and talked to an instructor who told me that the next time I got to the Keys that she would take care of it for me. When it came right down to it she told me that it was a waste of money in my case and didn't recommend that I go forward with it since it wouldn't benefit me in the least considering the type of diving I anticipated doing which is warm water reef and wreck diving. So I saved the money and will use it for an airlines ticket to South Florida or the Keys next month. Me arrogant? I suppose so.

WOW!!!! I bet that you have all of the answers to lifes mysteries,too!! How about the cure for cancer?! You're arrogance is annoying and laughable at the same time.

 

[Garrobo]

Beachlover::Gotcha Dude.

 

[Garrobo]

Tight wetsuits::Getting back to the original subject, how in hell can you flush out the pee if you are wearing a tight wetsuit. I thought that a wetsuit was just to make you look cool anyway.