Disturbing trend in diving?

[russ805]

I'm not sure, but if a dive operator knows the maximum depth and dictates the time and requires everyone to ascend with (or before) the divemaster, it may not be that big of a deal if customers simply play "follow the leader" - as long as they watch their own air supply.

I've done many, many dives where two 60 foot dives were scheduled with a 30 minute bottom time. As long as everyone follows the guidelines, they really don't need a computer to remain out of deco.

Personally, I don't dive without a computer unless it is super shallow and I might not turn it on just to save batteries.

Save batteries? Your well being is not worth the price of batteries? I change mine at 50% there is nothing to win by milking batteries until the are exhausted, unless your batteries are rechargable and non removable.

 

[EFX]

See it on a lot of guided dives. Especially saw it in cozumel, ow divers doing repeated dives to 90 feet and not watching NFL at all.....

So, for those of you who do not know what NFL means apart from the three hours of hysteria we just witnessed a month ago; it means No Fun Limit. It can occur at any time but mostly rears its ugly head when NDL has gone to zero and you realize you don't have enough gas for those mandatory deco stops.

 

[dmaziuk]

... and that is why you should dive a very conservative algorithm: that way can hit the No Fun zone with (likely) enough gas to keep the computer happy.

 

[NothingClever]

I have experience in a number of fear-inducing activities, such as parachute jumping in the U.S. Air Force.

Now just stop it right there.

Everyone knows AFSOC covers the DZ with memory foam pillows.

Sheesh…some people.

 

[Bigbella]

Disturbing trend in diving?

As always and mentioned all too frequently -- just too much crap, going in the water. I dragged yet another guy out of the surf at Carmel River State Beach, CA, less than ten days ago, who was incapable of even standing with all of his gear -- side-mounted 100s or 120s swinging like pendulums at either side, knocking him on his ass and a mondo pony slung over one shoulder. I nearly took one in the jaw.

There were three tanks, unclipped, out on the sand before the diver even stood -- and it was relatively flat out there.

My own setup that day, by way of comparison, was a hard backpack from the 1970s, sans bladder; a ten pound weight-belt and 7 mm wetsuit; a rental 80 because it was the last minute; along with a forty-year old Cyklon 300 with analogue gauges and a watch, normally kept behind the seat of my truck.

Of the two us, who do you suppose had a better time of it that day; and had a far lesser chance of dying by embarrassment?

 

[John C. Ratliff]

Now just stop it right there.

Everyone knows AFSOC covers the DZ with memory foam pillows.

Sheesh…some people.

A kinda poor PLF during the POW/MIA Jumpfest, 1972. Closest I could come up with memory foam pillows…

SeaRat

 

[Blackcrusader]

See it on a lot of guided dives. Especially saw it in cozumel, ow divers doing repeated dives to 90 feet and not watching NFL at all.....

I meet a lot of divers on vacation who do not use a DC. They just depend on staying around the DM's level. Sometimes when dive ops are not so busy it might just be a guide and myself or with some of my dive buddies. IT's then the DM just follows us along. What is limiting for a lot of DM's in SEA is that they use SUUNTO computers and on repeat dives have far less NDL than my buddies and I as we all use Shearwaters with GF 45/95. The DM just follows from a shallower depth to avoide exceeding NDL lol

 

[TheSnowBeast]

See it on a lot of guided dives. Especially saw it in cozumel, ow divers doing repeated dives to 90 feet and not watching NFL at all.....

For everyone wondering what the wonderous NFL is... It's a stupid typo that translates to NDL....

 

[scrane]

LOL . Yeah. That dive in Jupiter Ledge where my dh regulator filled with water and then shot it down my throat was quite the surprise and not an exaggeration in any way. The pneumonia from seawater inspiration and the blackout, so nice. What fun, maybe I will try to do that again---NOT!!!!!!!!! I was told those duble hose things would try to kill me and they was right and it did near about. And I do not need a log to remind me of that . I am absolutely lucky to be here.

I wish I had kept a log and put pictures from each dive in it. That would be fun. I might would have left that one out of the official record .

@Nemrod: I dive DH quite often. Can you give some information on the exact nature of the equipment failure you ran into? Thanks.

 

[Nemrod]

@Nemrod: I dive DH quite often. Can you give some information on the exact nature of the equipment failure you ran into? Thanks.

It has been posted enough. My solution was this and never looking back: