Yoke to DIN Conversion - Any difference than just getting DIN in the first place?

[snoballz]

I ordered the Atomic ST1 regulator with DIN first stage but ended up with a yoke first stage for myriad of issues including the fact that I need the reg this weekend. If I decide to covert to DIN, are there any differences than if I had gotten the DIN first stage in the first place instead of a conversion?

I'm concerned that there is either a performance issue of that there is a size of the first stage issue.

TIA.

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[Doc Harry]

The answer is: depends.

Depends on whether you mean removing the yoke and replacing it with DIN, or if you mean adding a yoke to DIN adapter.

If it is the former, then the answer is no, there is no difference. The DIN and yoke connectors are just that - connectors. They are unrelated to the actual first stage itself.

If it is the latter, then the answer is yes, there is a difference. The yoke to DIN connector sticks out quite a bit, limiting how high you can raise your head.

 

[halocline]

I've certainly never heard of a spin on yoke to DIN adapter, if that's what you're talking about, and I can't see how that one would work. Are you thinking of the spin on DIN to yoke adapter? There are inserts for some tank DIN fittings to accept a yoke reg.

IOW, if you have a yoke clamp on your reg, you cannot use it with DIN tanks unless you either have the yoke removed and replace it with a DIN connector or the tank has one of the convertible valves with the insert.

In terms of changing the reg from yoke to DIN, there is no difference between buying one with a DIN connector and having that DIN connector installed at a later date.

 

[Scared Silly]

Now that you have the yoke here what you can do

1) Buy the Din conversion. This will make the Reg fully DIN.

2) Keep all of the Yoke parts.

3) Buy from Atomics - a) Yoke nut b) DIN to Yoke nut adapter
NOTE - This is NOT the complete DIN to Yoke Converter

4) Take the just the Yoke from 2) and combine with new parts from 3) and you now have a complete DIN to Yoke Converter.

I have done this for several regs. At this point you can be fully DIN or fully Yoke or be DIN and use the DIN to Yoke Converter. Functionally there is no difference between any of these. As noted using a DIN to Yoke Converter will make the reg stick out about an inch more from the cylinder.

Mattboy there are Yoke to DIN adapters that thread on, you remove the yoke and yoke nut - they do not work with Atomic regs as with Atomic they use a Yoke retainer.

This is a Din Conversion:
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/at...n-adapter-din-yoke-adapter-yoke_converter.jpg

This is a Yoke to DIN adapter:
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/at...pter-din-yoke-adapter-yoke_to_din_adaptor.jpg

 

[snoballz]

Thanks folks.

I meant a full Yoke to DIN conversion and not an adapter. Actually, is there a YOKE to DIN adapter? I have a DIN to Yoke adapter (thinking I was getting a DIN first stage....) that I was going to keep in my dive bag but never heard of a Yoke to DIN adapter.

OK, so it seems I can surmise that a full conversion from Yoke to DIN on my Atomics ST1 is just the same as if I had just gotten a DIN first stage in the first place with no deficiency in functionality and no difference in size. Um, right?

Thanks again.

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[meesier42]

it seems to me that going DIN is kind of dying off, as the new HP steel tanks have been replaced with the new 3442PSI tanks that can use Yoke.

I am not discrediting DIN, as I prefer it as well, just stating what I see.

 

[=C=]

well... here in Europe thats how we spot a vacation diver

 

[halocline]

Mattboy there are Yoke to DIN adapters that thread on, you remove the yoke and yoke nut - they do not work with Atomic regs as with Atomic they use a Yoke retainer.

This is a Din Conversion:
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/at...n-adapter-din-yoke-adapter-yoke_converter.jpg

This is a Yoke to DIN adapter:
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/at...pter-din-yoke-adapter-yoke_to_din_adaptor.jpg

Well, you still have to remove the yoke to use the "adapter." I was talking about something like the spin-on DIN to yoke adapters that would allow someone with a yoke reg to use a DIN tank without taking apart their existing reg.

 

[Teamcasa]

it seems to me that going DIN is kind of dying off, as the new HP steel tanks have been replaced with the new 3442PSI tanks that can use Yoke.

I see going the other way - for the same reason. Those convertable valves are making it easy to use a DIN on many more tanks.

 

[cwkline]

Tia,
Yes you can convert. I converted my Atomics to DIN, called Scubatoys and bought the conversion for about $60.00. It can be done with an open end wrench if you don't have the socket and extension to make this easier.
And they do make DIN to Yoke adapters for HP (3500) tanks, but it puts the first stage at 90 degree angle to the valve and puts it very close to your head. I haven't dove one of these, but do use it to fill my HP 80's.
Safe Dives
Charlie
PS: Dave,
I say you are visiting Kauaii, is your entire trip there or will you be on Oahu at all?

I ordered the Atomic ST1 regulator with DIN first stage but ended up with a yoke first stage for myriad of issues including the fact that I need the reg this weekend. If I decide to covert to DIN, are there any differences than if I had gotten the DIN first stage in the first place instead of a conversion?

I'm concerned that there is either a performance issue of that there is a size of the first stage issue.

TIA.

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