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I know it’s all a gamble but when “should” the Nortes become slightly less of an issue? February?
I guess that winter is a different concept in California. The northers are fronts coming from the midcontinent plains and we hope to see those stop in March as the sun moves north. Sometimes those boogers come out of Russia tho, and March is not guaranteed.
 
I guess that winter is a different concept in California. The northers are fronts coming from the midcontinent plains and we hope to see those stop in March as the sun moves north. Sometimes those boogers come out of Russia tho, and March is not guaranteed.
Our rule of thumb for diving that part of the Caribbean (Cozumel, Roatan and Belize) is to schedule our annual dive trips no earlier than beginning of March. The times we have gone in January or February we have lost diving days due to Nortes.
 
Windguru is thinking that this next front may not arrive until Sunday now and may not close the port until Monday. Always changing.

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It was only last Xmas/NewYrs where we did lose a few diving days. Going back 4-5 years I don't recall any issues. It would suck this time around as we are there for a shorter time with dive dive dive planned. Last few years it's been 2days on 1 day off.
 
Maybe it's a strange question... Is there any way to predict the situation around December 23rd?
 
Maybe it's a strange question... Is there any way to predict the situation around December 23rd?

Best we could do is sunrise and sunset time. I guess water temps 80-82. Beer will be cold - much more than that is a pure guess.
 
Maybe it's a strange question... Is there any way to predict the situation around December 23rd?
Sure. Ouija board, magic 8 ball, i-ching, dart board... all those will work equally well. :D
 
NOAA forecasters say that the current La Niña* pattern has a 95% chance of continuing thru winter. One Dive Op once did a count of the number of port closures month by month for seven years (pinned at the top of this forum), and I have to wonder if La Niñas/El Niños have had a direct effect on years overall, but I guess that would require a hundred-year study. Since La Niñas push cooler water north along the North American west coast, I would speculate that westerly winds would cause colder conditions to build up in the northern continent when nortes form and therefore cause more northers to push down thru the midcontinent plains, then across Texas and the Gulf, but that's pretty long-range amateurish thinking. My family has been farming on the Texas high plains for a century now and none of us have figured out what to expect. I still don't put much faith in ten-day forecasts altho the experts seem to be getting better with those.

* I guess everyone knows where the El Niño-Southern Oscillation climate pattern got its name? NOAA claims that "El Niño means The Little Boy, or Christ Child in Spanish. El Niño was originally recognized by fishermen off the coast of South America in the 1600s, with the appearance of unusually warm water in the Pacific Ocean. The name was chosen based on the time of year (around December) during which these warm waters events tended to occur." I first heard the story based on warmer weather in Mexico City at Christmastime. The alternate name of La Niña does not refer to any little girls and was simply created by some weatherman in some conversation somewhere
 

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