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Not Hooters, perhaps Mayberry.Was one of the locations Hootersville?
I assure you, it won't happen here. I've held management/director postions with two South Florida Counties. I'm a former (volunteer) fire fighter and I've built Fire Stations for Palm Beach County. I cannot get a tank filled, so I suspect the other 10,000 divers are pretty much SOL. And, officially, a full time a fire fighter is prohibited from filling his personal tanks. (unauthorized use of County owned facilities)
And like the yellow line at the oil change place that says "no public beyond this point, insurance regulation", the only outside person filling tanks will be a vendor who has been selected under the approriate CCNA or JOC or what ever State sanctioned competitive selection process. (with the appropriate surety, risk and and general liability of course.) LOL
I'd feel fine, why wouldn't I?so what?? how are you able to go exploring in space OR underwater?? LIFE SUPPORT
try doing a CESA from 100' after 20 minutes bottom time and see how you feel in the morning.
Sorry, that's patently farm-animal stupid. First of all the free ascent, even on exhale is not big deal, if it is perhaps you shouldn't be there. If your octo is out dangling about to get caught on something, you are a stroke of the first order, and perhaps you should stay dry.I know we train with doing it from a full breath of air from 20'-30', but just for fun and to prove a point, start at the bottom with your lungs empty such as would be the case if:
your octo got caught on something and is now missing the diaphragm and grill. (I have found those on the bottom at sites before; made for interesting speculations on the boat later) and for whatever reason your primary' fails completely too.
the chances of both happening on the same dive are slim, but people still play the lottery
And then there's always your buddy, who is less than an arm length away.
There is no question that diving equipment can be life support when there is a ceiling, but that's not the use of the term as we're discussing it. Face it. if the guy behind the counter said, "life support" to any diver who routinely dove with either a physical or virtual ceiling, they'd take their business elsewhere. That's a phrase that is saved for moving the newbie up to the more expensive line and/or model.oh wait and your redundant gear is is more equipment of what variety?? LIFE SUPPORT thank you
umm, alright, the point that I was supporting with the analogy was that you cannot go into either environment without equipment that provides you with the conditions that your human body requires in order ro remain alive.
If you can escape one, but not another hostile environment back into your native one under your own steam that's great. Really it is. But you also are definitely NOT STAYING in either inhospitable one without the LIFE SUPPORT equipment which was my original point.
Your uncle's a narly dude. I'd love to buy him a beer, but I don't see the relevance.I am pretty sure they do sometimes. As far as "preventing death" I am sure that if you invented something that could do that, you would never have to worry about the prices paid for scuba equipment; you would be beyond rich!!!
Scuba gear does not even try to prevent death, but rather allow life in a situation or location where it would otherwise be untenible... it supports life, not assures. Thats what the fountain of youth is for.
my uncle had the drive wheels of a loaded 60 ton truck roll onto his chest last june, breaking 11 ribs and tearing/deflating both lungs. He was alone and it took 23 hours to push the truck off himself and drive himself 10 miles to a hospital. Sometimes it is people's responses in adverse situations that dictate their survivability. The doctors still can't figure out why he is alive. Some people have the desire or fight in them to defy ALL odds
can we agree that the regs give you air to breathe in an environment you would not otherwise be able to breathe in?? PLEASE??
Besides, if it were really life support would you trust anyone else to work on it? I wouldn't.For me, it is a real leap of faith to think that just because a shop happens to be nearby and you get to know the proprietor that he/she has YOUR safety and best interests at heart.
Back to the OP's original question: If you think you can get better service/support by paying a premium to your LDS than it may be in your best interest to buy equipment there rather than elsewhere. When I first bought my equipment 7 years ago, no LDS in my area carried Zeagle equipment which I decided to buy based in large part on recommendations on SB. (Thanks to all for that!) I bought my major gear from ScubaToys and then a couple years later my wife's gear (Zeagle Zena,etc.) and never looked back. I do sprinkle some dollars with my LDS for misc. stuff.