Rick Inman:
Actually, M2 has P-V envy :lol:
Why I won't dive with you.
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Actually, M2 has P-V envy :lol:
CUunderH2O
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Oh yeah. One more thing: I won't dive with divers who don't maintain their gear. One of my buddies about a year ago had a primary failure and switched to his octo (it was on a 5ft hose). I still laugh when I look at the photo of him, his hose bowed way out to his right... OTOH, I thought about that dive afterwards, and realize that I was stupid to dive with someone who didn't have my back, if my air source was interrupted. Granted, it was a shallow shore dive, but I'll never do that again. This is a guy who refused to take his gear in to get serviced because he didn't like the LDS. Not that we are lacking in LDS's.
How many of you regularly check whether your octo's are in working order? Or your buddy's? I dont mean one quick breath on the surface, I mean underwater. I used to think, so what, I won't be breathing from my own octo, so it's not as important. It used to get clogged full of green gunk floating in the water, with only a quick rinse after the dive. But now, since I switched to a long hose primary and bungeed octo, I KNOW both of my second stages work perfectly, because my buddy and I do air share drills at the beginning of each dive. One of my buddies recently bought a higher-quality octo after we did some air-share drills (he doesn't have long hoses). I had mentioned to him that his octo was breathing very wet, and very poorly. I am very thankful that he has replaced it with better, working gear.
When you're 100+ feet down, in cold, dark water, you want to make sure your buddy is ready to assist you with working gear, in case yours fails.
How many of you regularly check whether your octo's are in working order? Or your buddy's? I dont mean one quick breath on the surface, I mean underwater. I used to think, so what, I won't be breathing from my own octo, so it's not as important. It used to get clogged full of green gunk floating in the water, with only a quick rinse after the dive. But now, since I switched to a long hose primary and bungeed octo, I KNOW both of my second stages work perfectly, because my buddy and I do air share drills at the beginning of each dive. One of my buddies recently bought a higher-quality octo after we did some air-share drills (he doesn't have long hoses). I had mentioned to him that his octo was breathing very wet, and very poorly. I am very thankful that he has replaced it with better, working gear.
When you're 100+ feet down, in cold, dark water, you want to make sure your buddy is ready to assist you with working gear, in case yours fails.
I always dive with Hubby as buddy and few times with diver friends that I had known (as friend and diver), so I'm very lucky never have to experience bad buddy.
But I do have something to add:
I don't want to dive with divers who like to abuse marine life, like take out them from their habitat for picture purposes, then never put back, or destroy the habitat.
Break coral etc.
Frantic fin kicking and destroy everything reachable. It might be poor buoyancy, but it's heartbreaking to see.
Unsafe but stubborn divers.
For bragging diver I might be able to shut my ears, but if their brag is unproven worthy (when we have seen how they do underwater) and they still brag, I won't hesitate to point out the truth in front of others, if I'm on the mood to fight.
But I do have something to add:
I don't want to dive with divers who like to abuse marine life, like take out them from their habitat for picture purposes, then never put back, or destroy the habitat.
Break coral etc.
Frantic fin kicking and destroy everything reachable. It might be poor buoyancy, but it's heartbreaking to see.
Unsafe but stubborn divers.
For bragging diver I might be able to shut my ears, but if their brag is unproven worthy (when we have seen how they do underwater) and they still brag, I won't hesitate to point out the truth in front of others, if I'm on the mood to fight.
Nice list guys,
For me these are my pet peeves:
1. Mr Drunk (those party boat divers who drink themselves into a stupor the night before and somehow stagger into their gear and into the water the next day).
2. Mr Silt (I swear they carry silt in their wetsuits or whatever and have the amazing ability to silt up everything, everytime, everywhere).
3. Mr Know it all (yada yada yada, my gear... bla bla bla, my dive experience... yawn).
4. Mr rusty gear (Doesn't know the word maintenance)
5. Mr Me first (the inconsiderate a-holes who barge into your zone whenever there is something to see)
6. Mr Touch (the grab everthing that looks interesting diver. Hope he grabs a fire coral)
7. Mr Ignorant (why's you hose so long? What's DIR, What's a BP? And those are the questions after you've tried to tell him your gear configuration)
8. Obese and unfit divers (don't get me wrong, you may be able to save me in an emergency but I'm sure I may not and that's what worries me)
9. Mr MIA (the never follows the dive plan, disappears upon desend, is everywhere else but with you).
10. Mr Hunter
11. Mr Snapshot Tourist (take pictures of everything and never looks for his buddy)
I don't mind diving with rebreather divers but I'm not staying down as long as you are LOL!
Basically I try to dive with those who have a smiliar level of experience, are competent in the water and do not pose a health risk to themselves or to me.
SangP
For me these are my pet peeves:
1. Mr Drunk (those party boat divers who drink themselves into a stupor the night before and somehow stagger into their gear and into the water the next day).
2. Mr Silt (I swear they carry silt in their wetsuits or whatever and have the amazing ability to silt up everything, everytime, everywhere).
3. Mr Know it all (yada yada yada, my gear... bla bla bla, my dive experience... yawn).
4. Mr rusty gear (Doesn't know the word maintenance)
5. Mr Me first (the inconsiderate a-holes who barge into your zone whenever there is something to see)
6. Mr Touch (the grab everthing that looks interesting diver. Hope he grabs a fire coral)
7. Mr Ignorant (why's you hose so long? What's DIR, What's a BP? And those are the questions after you've tried to tell him your gear configuration)
8. Obese and unfit divers (don't get me wrong, you may be able to save me in an emergency but I'm sure I may not and that's what worries me)
9. Mr MIA (the never follows the dive plan, disappears upon desend, is everywhere else but with you).
10. Mr Hunter
11. Mr Snapshot Tourist (take pictures of everything and never looks for his buddy)
I don't mind diving with rebreather divers but I'm not staying down as long as you are LOL!
Basically I try to dive with those who have a smiliar level of experience, are competent in the water and do not pose a health risk to themselves or to me.
SangP
Rick Inman:
I don't know if I hate PV's - never had one before. Have one now. Have had it for about 3 months... just haven't installed it yet.
Hope I don't end up hating it.
Sang: Rebreathers are on my list because I have no idea what's going on with those things. If dude is having an issue, I have no idea what to do first, second, third. I don't know where anything is, how it works, or what to do. Too much science for me. Thats why they're off the dive buddy list.
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Ken
I have to agree with you completely. After reading the lead post, I had to stop and think about how I conducted myself on the last dive expedition with a complete stranger and board member. I'd like to think I didn't fall into those categories.
I'm big on buddy awareness. It's difficult to maintain a safe dive if you aren't aware where your other 1/2 is on the dive. Sometimes, you have to slow down or stop, others like to stop and smell the roses too! (wonder when the post titled "diver drowns attempting to smell roses underwater" will hit)
For those of you who we need to keep on a "short leash":
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ralf-Tech-Buddy...9QQihZ013QQcategoryZ73999QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'm big on buddy awareness. It's difficult to maintain a safe dive if you aren't aware where your other 1/2 is on the dive. Sometimes, you have to slow down or stop, others like to stop and smell the roses too! (wonder when the post titled "diver drowns attempting to smell roses underwater" will hit)
For those of you who we need to keep on a "short leash":
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ralf-Tech-Buddy...9QQihZ013QQcategoryZ73999QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Mo2vation:
I will agree with you on this one but usually these guys are very experienced otherwise they won't be using this gear in the first place.
Chances are they won't even want to dive with regular divers in the first place for precisely the same reasons you mentioned.
As far as I'm concern I don't have to know too much about a rebreather as long as the other diver knows how to signal for an OOA when his rig goes kaput! That and I would be hovering about him often enough to see him checking out his O2 levels often enough.
I would love to dive with these guys just to find out more about their gear and their world of slient diving. I'll be getting a Megalodon as soon as I can afford one and as soon as my dive experience hits the level which I'll be comfortable to use one LOL! The rebreather community is less than 0.5% of the diving world and seeing a rb diver is about as rare as sighting a giant squid!
Mo2vation wanna be my dive buddy then LOL!
SangP
Ber Rabbit:
Very good advice Rabbit, also RickInMan good notes to but think needs to replace one or two and add those
i.e.
Rick posts: * Diver who no-shows or is consistantly late and doesn't call.
I've done my share of sport diving back home netherland but since working in the commercial dive welding it pretty makes takes the sport end out of things, when I sport dive I only do it with friends and we know each other like family, one friend always show up late and sometimes never come without call or nothing this is just way he is and he is very fine diver i'm not gonna be like "hey I no dive with you anymore because you show up late and no call" .. I think rabbit really hits the nose on those two that rabbit just posted, that was the two things I was thinking when reading this.
Always descending,
c.h.
Diver Dennis
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SangP:
I was in the Philippines last month and there were four rebreather guys in from the US. All but three were laying, yes laying on the reef on multiple occasions. They might know how to work a rebreather but that doesn't mean they know how to dive.
Diver Dennis:
In that case I hope they were laying on fire coral :shakehead
As to my initial post I did mention the word usually. Maybe I should change it to hopefully :lol:
Anyway, these dweebs otta to know better and I would be ashame to dive with them even if I owned a rebreather.
SangP
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