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Why I won't dive with you.
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IslandCowgirl:
I dive a drysuit and a 130. The number of times I've bolted up the shore, or clambered up the swimstep to run for relief is more than I can count.
You may be on to something... not a surface pee... .but a good surface pee.
It'll have to wait until Lobster Season when I'm diving wet again.
Hmmmm....
I have a Pee Valve I haven't installed yet. I wonder... Once I install the thing, does having a good surface pee (albeit through a bolt) in my drysuit whilst on the deck count as someone I shouldn't dive with. I may have to stop diving with me. I'd hate that.
Decisions, decisions.
If only I could find that damn open mind....
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Ken
I regularly dive with a guy who is the first person to point out your mistakes (with all 20 dives worth of his expeirence) and who is completly obivious to everything he does wrong. ie...practicly dragging his entire body against the bottom, everything on his bc is flapping around in the wind and this is stuff thats noticable only when he sticks near you. normally we all decend and he is no where to be found, he has been quoted saying im not letting you guys cut down on my dive time just to make sure you have everybody. and then to top it off bust chops about stuff like carrying an extra mask, using a smaller knife or getting more training. I have learned that there are some people in the world that will never get thier's. sorry for the rant.
I prefer the hunters ahead of me. Nothing causes pucker factor than to be happily waiting my 3 min. at 15 ft., jon line attached, enjoying the scenery and look down at 4 spear guns, bands cocked and locked, and all 4 pointing straight up the anchor line. I was not a happy camper when we all got back on the boat. (Oh. sorry, this would have been in context about 4 pages ago. )( Note to self, see how many pages there are before posting.)
ffdiver:
I'm reading a lot in this thread, and others abotu people that just aren't having fun diving with the people they're diving with.
A friend of mine (A bass player... not that that means anything. Its who he is to me) is a part time diver - he does maybe 5 - 20 dives a year.
He was asking me the other day where he could get a SubDuck underwater signaling device so he could get his inattentive buddy's attention underwater when they're diving.
I'm thinking - man. Dude has bigger problems if the person he chooses to dive with is so clueless he needs to resort to technology to get his attention. I mean, cmon. SoCal is rarely blackwater diving...
Its like a whole other thread - do you dislike diving with someone, but still keep diving with them? I understand if you're someplace where divers are rare - but this is SoCal - divers are all over the place, and our SB Kelp Divers regional is very active. I can't imagine someone in SoCal continuing diving with someone they dread. I mean, it sucks the fun out of diving if you're constantly looking all over for some wacky, clueless rototilling road runner clown.
This is an interesting topic.
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Ken
realdiver7
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To keep my comments as simple as I can, I believe divers can solve 90% of their dive buddy issues up front by:
1. Diving with a buddy who has the same dive agenda as you (i.e., if you want to
take pictures, then don't dive with someone who is spearfishing).
2. Discussing mutual expectations and safety issues before the dive (i.e., includes
planning your dive and diving your plan, the pace of the dive, and other important
mutual expectations).
3. Diving mostly with buddies you are familiar with (I know, it's not always possible).
The remaining 10% of dive buddy issues can be tricky, but your first responsibility is to yourself, regardless of what others may do. Even though I strongly advocate the buddy system, I will signal my intentions and then break away from a dangerous or careless diver and end the dive, or finish the dive solo if I am properly equipped. No dive buddy is better than one who may endanger my life.
Be honest and up front with who you dive with, don't be timid, and don't be afraid of offending them because you are discussing life preservation and safety. This is no time for political correctness, diplomacy, or beating around the bush. If you don't feel comfortable with someone, then say so. If you don't feel comfortable with the dive, then call it off.
Just my 2 psi worth.
1. Diving with a buddy who has the same dive agenda as you (i.e., if you want to
take pictures, then don't dive with someone who is spearfishing).
2. Discussing mutual expectations and safety issues before the dive (i.e., includes
planning your dive and diving your plan, the pace of the dive, and other important
mutual expectations).
3. Diving mostly with buddies you are familiar with (I know, it's not always possible).
The remaining 10% of dive buddy issues can be tricky, but your first responsibility is to yourself, regardless of what others may do. Even though I strongly advocate the buddy system, I will signal my intentions and then break away from a dangerous or careless diver and end the dive, or finish the dive solo if I am properly equipped. No dive buddy is better than one who may endanger my life.
Be honest and up front with who you dive with, don't be timid, and don't be afraid of offending them because you are discussing life preservation and safety. This is no time for political correctness, diplomacy, or beating around the bush. If you don't feel comfortable with someone, then say so. If you don't feel comfortable with the dive, then call it off.
Just my 2 psi worth.
Mo2vation:
What if I am standing on the deck of the Yukon?
It also shows talent that I can stand on a deck that is nearly pitched 90 degrees.
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I remembered another: You can strap your D.I.C. to your body, wear it in a holster or let it hang out, but if you do, be sure not to drag your D.I.C. through the fire coral. There are maybe a hundred more in that vein.
:shakehead
I completely agree with you. However, what do you do in the following scenario?
You've explained the plan and talked about possible thumb dive scenarios and both divers have agreed to the plan. One diver has issues and signals the other that they need to thumb the dive. The other diver doesn't want to. :shakehead
The thumbing diver spots another dive team, swims to them, is in obvious distress, yet contained, and signals for assistence finding the boat. What do you do if you are the other dive team? Do you help the distressed diver or take off?
Perhaps this should be explored as a dive etiquette topic?
L
realdiver7:
I completely agree with you. However, what do you do in the following scenario?
You've explained the plan and talked about possible thumb dive scenarios and both divers have agreed to the plan. One diver has issues and signals the other that they need to thumb the dive. The other diver doesn't want to. :shakehead
The thumbing diver spots another dive team, swims to them, is in obvious distress, yet contained, and signals for assistence finding the boat. What do you do if you are the other dive team? Do you help the distressed diver or take off?
Perhaps this should be explored as a dive etiquette topic?
L
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Actually, that explains a lot.Mo2vation:
I thought you hate PVs???Mo2vation:
Oh, the best pee is the sneak-pee (with a balanced, no-bolt, drysuit pv). Standing there on the shore with the group, talking, no one knowing why you have a pleasant look of joy on your face, a small puddle forming unnoticed at your foot...
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