Let me give you an example of a few instances at my LDS. I went in a few months ago to buy a shorty and the salesman, who now knows me, said, what do you need that for? He said, you have a 3 mil, a 1 mil and a skin so you don't need a shorty. Stop wasting your money. On another occasion I went in to buy a sub duck alert because of an incidnt I had diving the Spiegel Grove. She said, this was another salesperson, those are a pain in the ***, you don't want to buy that -$75, get a rattle $18 that works just as well. You have to trust people like that. Would I get that kind of treatment from a faceless voice on the phone from an non diving,Internet merchant? I seriously doubt it.