Why aren't more people taking up scuba diving?

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Hmm...the 20 somethings here seem to be big on the adrenaline side, as long as its fast. I asked a few students what they did for hobbies - answers included paragliding, wing suit diving (congrats to my wingsuiters who just set a new world record this past weekend) jet boating, speed car racing, demolition derbies, jet skiing and motor cross and off road biking......and golf and pole dancing and belly dancing.....I get the others, and yes, I have female engineering students too hence the pole dancers, but if golf can get another day in the sun and be trendy.....what are we doing wrong?

I think we are just too......slow. I asked about scuba and apparently free diving aka William Truebridge and Deans Blue Hole type diving or tech diving setting deep records appeals......but floating around looking at fish?...too slow no guaranteed action or reward. :confused:
 
I believe the adrenaline-pumping idea does indeed fit a portion of the diving community, but only a small portion.

Of all the people I have done technical dives with in Colorado, the majority are also rock climbers, some very serious about it. I teach the advanced recreational and technical classes for our dive shop, and the majority of the people I have worked with are either into rock climbing or very serious mountain biking. I currently have a female tech student who moved here for the rock climbing.

On the other hand, that is a very small number in comparison with the total number of divers around here. We do not have a lot of people interested in advanced recreational and technical diving in this entire state right now.
 
Maybe after the adrenaline junkies reach middle age, they'll see the wisdom in slowing down and smelling the roses. After 52 years I continue to dive because (1) I often see new stuff even in places I've done a 1,000 dives or more; (2) I dive to take video to share with non-divers so they gain an appreciation of our local marine life and (3) the slow leisurely pace and weightlessness help maintain my low blood pressure.
 
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I tell my girlfriend I'm going diving.

Having given this matter some more thought, I think there is a big difference between a spouse in a the middle of a long term marriage wanting to invest some of the money they have saved together over the years in a new hobby and a girl friend voluntarily attaching herself to a middle aged (or older) man who has long established diving as an integral part of his life. If she did not already accept that diving life style, she would not have agreed to the arrangement.

Of course, I am assuming this girl friend voluntarily agreed to the relationship, Trace--or did you whack her over the head with a club and drag her into your cave by the hair?
 
... maybe the reason why you no longer see manly men dominating scuba diving is because it's no longer considered a "manly" activity ... thank goodness ...

... and real men drink beer when they're watching a football game ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Beer raises estrogen levels.

Beer Is Making You A Girly Man | RPM FITNESS

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Having given this matter some more thought, I think there is a big difference between a spouse in a the middle of a long term marriage wanting to invest some of the money they have saved together over the years in a new hobby and a girl friend voluntarily attaching herself to a middle aged (or older) man who has long established diving as an integral part of his life. If she did not already accept that diving life style, she would not have agreed to the arrangement.

Of course, I am assuming this girl friend voluntarily agreed to the relationship, Trace--or did you whack her over the head with a club and drag her into your cave by the hair?

My father was a real tough-guy marine. The loss of an eye never held him back from building a successful career, hunting, fishing, horseback riding, etc. On the outside he was like Archie Bunker or the Great Santini. On the inside he had a great appreciation for art and beauty. He played the guitar and loved zithers and music with a latin flair. His favorite sport was figure skating. He hated football. It's funny because he would make me watch figure skating with him which I found to boring. But, he would sit their rapt in interest describing each competitor's strengths and weaknesses and point out the things that he felt were more important to the "art" rather than the sport. As I got older and could appreciate pretty girls and the art a bit more. Watching it wasn't that bad. In fact, I think it is one of the sexiest sports a woman can do. Who knew years later that he would have given me the tools to date a professional skater and truly know and appreciate what she does and how hard she worked since age 3.

Diving has been the same for me. A lifelong pursuit. She and I understand each other and the need to do what we do. These are the things for which we live. People have lost their way as to the things which are truly important. My siblings and I were allowed one activity per season be it baseball, football, or majorettes in my sister's case. My parents had time for theirs. My mother liked to ride horses (she was an equestrian instructor and college education prof), fish and target shoot. My sister and her husband (she's a child psychologist and he's a teacher) have almost no time for themselves since their 5 kids are involved in several activities each. If a soccer coach said practice was from 10 PM to midnight the parents would gripe but find a way to make it work. If a coach told my dad that practice was 10 PM to midnight he'd take me out of the activity.

Today, we place too much emphasis on kids, structured play, sports, and worry about what college the kids will get into when they are in pre-school. In school, natural male behaviors are being stifled. I'm sure you know all about the controversies regarding males adapting to school policies, the use of drugs to control what might be normal behavior, etc., as an expert in that field. Mothers tend to focus on the children, the home and their own careers and forget the needs of their husbands. Not all, of course. But, it's far more prevalent today. I think we hit balance at some point between the 60's and 21st century and the scale is tipping with men, especially white men, becoming the losers.

In college, I asked my religious studies professor why I dislike church even though I'm a Christian. She loaned me a book, "Wildmen, Warriors, and Kings: Masculine Spirituality and the Bible." It was an interesting read focusing on what's been happening in society and the way we worship that attracts the feminine and repels or subjugates the masculine and the decline of men as the spiritual leaders in the homes.

I'm all for 50-50 relationships. But, I think that we are destroying men. I think men naturally excel and feel comfortable with leadership and responsibility. In the poor communities have so many unwed mothers with men not taking responsibility to be fathers because they aren't being taught to be strong men any more. In the 'burbs, we have "the wife" because it's somehow wrong for men to be strong-willed.

The feminist win in the battle of the sexes has become a phyrric victory.

From what I've been reading online, it seems that the twenty-something women want their men to "Man Up" again.

Scuba has become a middle-aged activity with little adventure (Look, but don't touch. Take only pictures, leave only bubbles) while the SPORT of freediving appeals more to the young than ever before. Hot bodies + deep depths or dead fish = danger = sexy.
 
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but if golf can get another day in the sun and be trendy.....what are we doing wrong?

I think we are just too......slow. I asked about scuba and apparently free diving aka William Truebridge and Deans Blue Hole type diving or tech diving setting deep records appeals......but floating around looking at fish?...too slow no guaranteed action or reward. :confused:

Golf is totally different from scuba diving. It is a game and it's played socially with betting and a goal of winning. Diving is much more …..zen like. A walk in the woods. drbill gives a good explanation I think. And it seems that old time divers are photographers, maybe a little spearing…doing something. Diving for the sake of improving skills won't last long. I mean, how "good" can you get at diving? It's not about skills…I think anyway, it's about loving the marine environment and being part of it.

And in my experience, golf takes way more skill and practice if you plan to get to a low, single digit handicap….which I never did. 12 was my best.
 
In school, natural male behaviors are being stifled. I'm sure you know all about the controversies regarding males adapting to school policies, the use of drugs to control what might be normal behavior, etc., as an expert in that field.
I do believe much of this is true. Here is one of many articles I could have cited: Christina Hoff Sommers: School Has Become Hostile to Boys | TIME.com

In a case I know all too well, a mother came to elementary school to pick up her son, and she asked the teacher how the day had gone. The teacher immediately said that her son had had an extremely bad day in school. She talked about his fidgeting in his chair, tapping his pencil on the desk, and general difficulty sitting perfectly still the way he was supposed to. After that pretty long tirade, the mother said that she knew he was scheduled to give an important presentation in front of the class, and she wondered how that had gone. Reminded of it at last, the teacher said it had gone very well. In fact, it may have been the very best presentation she had ever seen in her nearly 30 years of teaching--but he still shouldn't be fidgeting in his seat, and if that didn't stop, she as going to have to take drastic action.
I'm all for 50-50 relationships. But, I think that we are destroying men. I think men naturally excel and feel comfortable with leadership and responsibility. In the poor communities have so many unwed mothers with men not taking responsibility to be fathers because they aren't being taught to be strong men any more. In the 'burbs, we have "the wife" because it's somehow wrong for men to be strong-willed.
Your first two sentences contradict each other. Both men and women can have many opportunities to be responsible leaders. Are you saying that if you feel you are not getting that opportunity in your day to day life, you need to take control at home?
 
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I see the competitve side of golf coming into play - I just find it strange that 5 - 10 years ago any twenty somethings here in Aus saying they were into Golf would generally be laughed at. It was always considered an old mans sport, the outfits were always a source of derision and amusement. Im noticing the young crew now are hitting the golf courses in their jeans and often drag along beers so maybe that's got something to do with it. A lot of this generation here are big travelers, its becoming standard to do your europe and asia trip - they partake of zip-lining and jet boating and often say ''i thought about learning to dive but it took a few days so instead we went white water rafting and on an elephant back safari''. Time seems to play a big role in what they want out of their amusement dollar. I don't see all divers as just photographers or spearos or endlessly practicing skills - I meet a lot of Aussies and Brits in particular diving around different parts of the world who are combining diving and travelling not practicing skills - which is what I prefer to do.

The whole gender and relationship spin this thread has taken surprises me. I've met both men and women travelling solo who are happily married or in long term relationships where one doesn't dive and the other does - separate holidays seem to work for them, guess it comes down to what you are comfortable with.
 
The fact is that many activities are suffering a decline these days, at least in the United States. The statistics on golf are staggering in the amount of decline. Golf is doing great compared to tennis.

I talked to my son, aged 35, about this general topic. He is doing relatively well financially, much better than the average person his age, but he says the reason is primarily money. With a growing family, he has to be very careful where he spends his recreational dollars. He is an avid outdoorsman, and once you make an initial investment in equipment, the activities in which he is regularly engaged are practically free. The most expensive use of his money is skiiing, and living in Colorado, he knows the ways the locals beat the high ticket prices. Having committed hsi resources to thsoe activities, he does not have much left for anything else. He would love to play golf more, but he feels he can't afford it. Scuba is out of the question.
 
I see the competitve side of golf coming into play - I just find it strange that 5 - 10 years ago any twenty somethings here in Aus saying they were into Golf would generally be laughed at. It was always considered an old mans sport, the outfits were always a source of derision and amusement. Im noticing the young crew now are hitting the golf courses in their jeans and often drag along beers so maybe that's got something to do with it.

Yeah, I remember back in the 70s when I grew up in Ohio. That was more or less the "blue collar" attitude towards golf. Funny how some macho types liked shooting pool but had no idea that golf was pool times ten....pool on steroids. Same type of precision and skill but waaaay harder to learn
Give it to Tiger Woods for changing golf. (sorry for the derail but it's no worse than blaming wives for less divers..:D) but now most pro golfers are lean and mean (look at your Aussie Adam Scott. He looks like an NFL tight end). 8 iron used to be the 150 yard club. Now it's a pitching wedge. The game has changed.
 
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