DIR- GUE Why are non-GUE divers so interested in what GUE does?

[crofrog]

For reference, a PADI DM must swim 400 yards in less than 12 minutes, so that is like 300 yards in less than 9 minutes. 14 minutes for that distance does not seem very demanding.

I agree it was not demanding I did it 9 something at like with an RPE of 7ish. I think it's important to note that is done without fins. For GUE professionals the standard is raised to 600yd in 14 minutes.

Does the padi standard allow the use of fins?

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

I agree it was not demanding I did it 9 something at like with an RPE of 7ish. I think it's important to note that is done without fins. For GUE professionals the standard is raised to 600yd in 14 minutes.

Does the padi standard allow the use of fins?

300 yards mask, fins, snorkel. 200 yards without.

 

[ginti]

For reference, a PADI DM must swim 400 yards in less than 12 minutes, so that is like 300 yards in less than 9 minutes. 14 minutes for that distance does not seem very demanding.

Sorry, but this comment is a bit out of context... GUE tec2 and cave2 divers need to do 400 yards in 14min. GUE professionals need to do 600 yards in 14minutes (which is equivalent to 400 yards in less than 10 minutes)... but the point was not a competition about who swims faster.

The point was that with PADI there is a too easy test to check the fitness level of potential divers at OW level.

 

[PfcAJ]

Because the diver did a wreck dive trip to deep wrecks a couple of weeks before we went to a mine. He did use 10/70 for the wreck dive trip and there was still a lot of gas in his doubles. He could add ean32 but not enough to change the mix to 18/45 before he would reach max fill pressure.

Another diver went to do a trip one week after diving a mine. If he would fill his doubles with 18/45 before we would dive the mine there would be a lot of gas in his doubles. Then it wouldn’t be possible the ad helium and change the mix to 10/70 because his tanks are already >200 bar.

I’m always using 18/45 as dilluent and bailout for my gue jj ccr. But it’s not an incident, a buddy who is at the dive site with a diluent and bailout in his doubles which is not optimized for the dive.

Do you guys not have sets of 50s for different standard gases?

I keep a set of 18/45, 16/60, and 10/85 (WKPP standard gases) bailouts for my ‘breather ready to go.

 

[crofrog]

3. Buoyancy and trim are very much part of the current PADI requirements.

Is this being taught to the standards?

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Is this being taught to the standards?

Yes.

 

[tursiops]

Does the padi standard allow the use of fins?

No, nor does WRSTC, which was in your original post on this subtopic.

 

[crofrog]

No, nor does WRSTC, which was in your original post on this subtopic.

Then my open water class and all of my friends were not done to standard, but maybes it's changed.

 

[tursiops]

Then my open water class and all of my friends were not done to standard, but maybes it's changed.

Wait, there are two different concepts going on here. I was quoting the Divemaster requirements for watermanship, to suggest 300 yards in 14 mins is not that hard. For OW, as pointed out earlier, there is no time requirement. That OW swim is 200 yards without fins, or 300 yards with fins, mask, snorkel. How far did you go in your OW class, using fins?

 

[crofrog]

Wait, there are two different concepts going on here. I was quoting the Divemaster requirements for watermanship, to suggest 300 yards in 14 mins is not that hard. For OW, as pointed out earlier, there is no time requirement. That OW swim is 200 yards without fins, or 300 yards with fins, mask, snorkel. How far did you go in your OW class, using fins?

I don't remember. I feel like it was a timed swim not for distance.