DIR- GUE Why are non-GUE divers so interested in what GUE does?

[mariosx]

But you guys gotta admit that promoting traveling all over the world to do fun dives (which is what I do too) is not what you can call 'conservation' in any way shape or form.

GUE divers, like all non-commercial divers dive for fun. Most GUE divers I know, include almost always some drills in their GUE dives and they practice ticking the "Education" box. GUE organizes a bunch of expeditions with its satelite orgs like local project baseline, for cleaning up. Also through WKPP or other teams in different places it explores new areas, maps and records them.

I am an extremely young member with still some basic lacking skills (at least to a degree I would consider good enough) only through GUE I have been exposed in all such core goals of GUE. I have been trained, I have participated in coastal cleaning operations (although still my skills are not there of hardcore ghost gear removal), and I even had the immense luck to be among the first 10 divers that visited a completely pristine and untouched cenote, where I assisted on data collection. And all those during my 1st year being a GUE diver. Not sure which other organization/agency offers such opportunities and is as interconnected with different projects etc...

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The Dubai thingy is ...something. Assuming I get abducted and end up in Dubai (the only way I could imagine myself visiting a country with an official dictatorship/monarchy) and I was given the opportunity to dive there, I wouldn't think twice just for the absurdity of that.

 

[LiteHedded]

GUE divers, like all non-commercial divers dive for fun. Most GUE divers I know, include almost always some drills in their GUE dives and they practice ticking the "Education" box. GUE organizes a bunch of expeditions with its satelite orgs like local project baseline, for cleaning up. Also through WKPP or other teams in different places it explores new areas, maps and records them.

I am an extremely young member with still some basic lacking skills (at least to a degree I would consider good enough) only through GUE I have been exposed in all such core goals of GUE. I have been trained, I have participated in coastal cleaning operations (although still my skills are not there of hardcore ghost gear removal), and I even had the immense luck to be among the first 10 divers that visited a completely pristine and untouched cenote, where I assisted on data collection. And all those during my 1st year being a GUE diver. Not sure which other organization/agency offers such opportunities and is as interconnected with different projects etc...

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The Dubai thingy is ...something. Assuming I get abducted and end up in Dubai (the only way I could imagine myself visiting a country with an official dictatorship/monarchy) and I was given the opportunity to dive there, I wouldn't think twice just for the absurdity of that.

we (Casey) work in concert with stakeholders from the state. They use the data we provide to influence purchasing decisions for their conservation efforts

 

[berndo]

Good lord, not gonna get into this any further as I don't want this guy's head to explode.
I guess the people who have been around for longer know what the deal is.

 

[berndo]

we (Casey) work in concert with stakeholders from the state. They use the data we provide to influence purchasing decisions for their conservation efforts

You're in the teeny tiniest % of all gue divers doing that stuff, I guess you know that. You can cherry pick and nitpick ever argument but I reckon you know what I meant. Other people probably not so much.

 

[LiteHedded]

You're in the teeny tiniest % of all gue divers doing that stuff, I guess you know that. You can cherry pick and nitpick ever argument but I reckon you know what I meant. Other people probably not so much.

I mean (again) it’s just an agency that teaches you how to go diving. For fun. Once you’re done with your class you can go off and do any kind of diving you want.

 

[mariosx]

we (Casey) work in concert with stakeholders from the state. They use the data we provide to influence purchasing decisions for their conservation efforts

I was lucky enough to know well thanks to John Rose.


/Edit:
Information retracted due to misunderstanding.

 

[berndo]

Great meeting you online Casey!

He's not Casey.

 

[mariosx]

He's not Casey.

I guess I misinterpreted the first 2 words.
Awkward silence...
Anyway.

 

[mariosx]

You're in the teeny tiniest % of all gue divers doing that stuff, I guess you know that.

WKPP is the tiniest % of all GUE divers, and an even tinier % when it comes to all divers, given the kind of dives they perform.
Nevertheless I know more GUE divers that are participating actively on clean-ups or research than GUE divers just diving for fun... As my profile pic indicates I might have an obvious bias.

BUT from the largest to the smallest GUE-affiliate diveshop you can see that they very often organize a bunch of projects for cleaning, inviting scientist, and assisting them FOR FREE, etc. GUE divers of various levels support such efforts. GUE and GUE divers actively support the community, and I am not sure why they are not included in this "tiny" percentage. Often when we were running experiments with my team and we were 1 or more divers too short to perform well our plans, we had no problem recruiting quickly and on the spot GUE divers to assist us, and they didn't even ask for a deco beer.

You have some assumptions on the numbers that simply don't add up in my book and my very limited recreational experience.

This statement of yours is simply the proof of how bad is GUE on marketing...

 

[Doc Harry]

Nobody cared then and more than nobody cares now

Thank you for summarizing everything that one needs to know about the attitude of GUE divers.

That was the attitude back when I was taking GUE classes, and clearly that is still the attitude of GUE divers in March 2023.