My first dryglove was the glove with the seal attached. Out of probably 15 dives never once had two dry hands. Getting the seal right on the suit seal was almost impossible and the seal on the gloves wanted to be half up my arm. Switched to Kubi addon rings and loved themnonce I figured out how to grease the rings. Not enough and they locked solid. Too much and they popped off. Once I got the grease right they are perfect. Now have glued in rings on my new suit for my kubis.