Which BP/W BC is best for the advanced diver?

[cool_hardware52]

There are times when DSS gear won't match up well with other manufacturer's gear.(from post #17)

Again I'll ask is it possible to:

Use Any DSS plate with virtually any 3rd party singles wing and STA?
Use any DSS singles wing with virtually any 3rd party plate and STA?
Use any DSS plate and 3rd party doubles wing?
Use any DSS Doubles wing and 3rd party Plate?

If the above is true, what exactly won't match up well?

Because your plate is markedly flatter and shallower, when placed on my doubles, the bolts are too short. Even with the weight plates flipped I don't have enough exposed thread. OTOH, if I put longer bolts on, then they are too long if I use any of my other plates.

I've included some pics... the first two show that my bolts are too short with your plate. The third shows that with a longer bolt sized to fit your plate, they are too long to use with my other plates.
(Both from post 21)

Because of its unique design it just doesn't work well with my STAs and twins that have bolt lengths that are set up for all my other plates.

I'm gonna take the DSS out of the line up. It's a great plate... probably the best... but I don't want to have to mess around with my bolt lengths

(both from post 23)

Tobin's stuff is so unique that it just MIGHT not fit with your other stuff without having to do some mods. The bolt length thing is one example. (from post 25)

Here are 5 different quotes where you refer to potential bolt lenght issues, all in support of your claim that DSS gear doesn't match up well with others.

I'll have to call BS on this one. First of all you don't need "special bolts" to use your plate. (from post 39)

Followed by a quote where you now claim there is no need for special bolts.

Which is it?


Tobin

 

[jagfish]

Seems like you've both conveyed your points well, and though they still differ, have inserted an olive branch or two along the way.

Thanks to the both of you for an exchange that was no doubt enlightening and thought provoking to those who followed it.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

alpaj,

I'll resist the urge to swing the hammer. You're new here and obviously enthusiatic about DSS gear. Welcome to the club... we all like Tobin's stuff.

As far as putting washers under the head of the bolt is concerned... ya, I do that occasionally... but only when I use all-thread. One or two... I have no problem with that. I wouldn't stack up a quarter inch of them, though. IMHO, if you want that much off the bolt then it's time to break out the saw and file. Besides, shortening the bolt with washers would not help any of the issues I have described. Effectively it makes the bolt shorter... the same as if you cut it off.

If you are using Highland bands then putting washers under the bolt head is a bad idea. eyebrow

Anyway, welcome to the board! Take some time and fill out your profile so that we can get to know you a little better.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

If you are using Highland bands then putting washers under the bolt head is a bad idea. eyebrow

Oops! My bad. Misinformation alert. Sorry, I just had one of those moments.

Putting a washer under the head of a Highland bolt does not cause the problem that I was thinking about. As far as I know you can do it. With some of their bolts it might even help prevent the problem that I had on my mind.



Does anyone else get the feeling sometimes that posting here is like testifying before the grand jury! :11doh: