pafindr
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Cause you'll get yourself khacked!
What's wrong with being a recreational diver?
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Cause you'll get yourself khacked!
UCFKnightDiver
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You might do that yes 
but then again some of the purely "recreational" divers Ive seen scare me!
but then again some of the purely "recreational" divers Ive seen scare me!
Atomic_Diver
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last one theres a rotton egg...lol
Today, my girlfriend and I did a face to face horizontal ascent wearing drysuits and doubles. We broke the surface of the water together, when a college kid asked, "Are you two GUE?"
Well, the answer to that was, "Yes," as part of a larger picture of diver training. My girlfriend passed GUE-F with a tech pass and I passed GUE Tech 1.
The kid, living in New York, learned to dive in Israel. The first thing he said, without prompting, was that his training sucked and that he wanted to take GUE courses and get into technical diving because he believed he didn't know anything. He had taken AOW and nitrox and he doesn't feel comfortable. He said his buddy was a mess and his buddy, present, agreed.
I spoke to them at length about recreational and technical diving and we dropped down together to look at his skills. I've seen far worse, but he said he has been doing lots of reading about GUE and skills and he's been working on his buoyancy, trim, and other skills. He hated the jacket style BCD in which he had been trained and he found he didn't like the Zeagle Ranger BCD he had purchased. Now, short of cash, he's pinching pennies to afford better gear and training.
It's funny that right after I posted my opinion about why divers go tech, a diver who epitomizes one of the points I had made introduced himself. I gave him advice about gear and about doing my course or Bob Sherwood's course and then advised him to take it slow.
He vehemently loathes the instruction and gear he had as a recreational diver. Should he progress to tech training, some of this angst may be displaced on recreational diving and recreational divers in general. If he takes my courses, I'll try to foster some respect for the recreational divers and make him realize that just because things sucked for him, not every recreational diver and recreational instructor is of poor quality.
He's a really nice kid and not egocentric. If he gets an attitude someday it will be because he was a product of an industry that accepts poor quality as the norm.
Maybe some "tech 'tude" is in response to the undercooked fast food of the diving industry?
Well, the answer to that was, "Yes," as part of a larger picture of diver training. My girlfriend passed GUE-F with a tech pass and I passed GUE Tech 1.
The kid, living in New York, learned to dive in Israel. The first thing he said, without prompting, was that his training sucked and that he wanted to take GUE courses and get into technical diving because he believed he didn't know anything. He had taken AOW and nitrox and he doesn't feel comfortable. He said his buddy was a mess and his buddy, present, agreed.
I spoke to them at length about recreational and technical diving and we dropped down together to look at his skills. I've seen far worse, but he said he has been doing lots of reading about GUE and skills and he's been working on his buoyancy, trim, and other skills. He hated the jacket style BCD in which he had been trained and he found he didn't like the Zeagle Ranger BCD he had purchased. Now, short of cash, he's pinching pennies to afford better gear and training.
It's funny that right after I posted my opinion about why divers go tech, a diver who epitomizes one of the points I had made introduced himself. I gave him advice about gear and about doing my course or Bob Sherwood's course and then advised him to take it slow.
He vehemently loathes the instruction and gear he had as a recreational diver. Should he progress to tech training, some of this angst may be displaced on recreational diving and recreational divers in general. If he takes my courses, I'll try to foster some respect for the recreational divers and make him realize that just because things sucked for him, not every recreational diver and recreational instructor is of poor quality.
He's a really nice kid and not egocentric. If he gets an attitude someday it will be because he was a product of an industry that accepts poor quality as the norm.
Maybe some "tech 'tude" is in response to the undercooked fast food of the diving industry?
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I get so tired of the DIR/GUE comments ...
Hell, I've a former student (and member of this board) who's been told by two separate PADI instructors that she's gonna die because she wears her weightbelt under her harness. Never mind that she's been properly trained on how to ditch it if needed, and does it that way for valid reasons. Since it ain't the PADI way, she's a danger to herself and humanity in general.
The world would be a much easier place to live in if people would just quit offering "advice" on things they don't understand ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Hell, I've a former student (and member of this board) who's been told by two separate PADI instructors that she's gonna die because she wears her weightbelt under her harness. Never mind that she's been properly trained on how to ditch it if needed, and does it that way for valid reasons. Since it ain't the PADI way, she's a danger to herself and humanity in general.
The world would be a much easier place to live in if people would just quit offering "advice" on things they don't understand ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Blackwood
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I don't use a weightbelt with my most common config (double HP100s). I wonder if those two instructors would think I'm a-ok or a future statistic.
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I doubt either one of them has ever dived doubles ... or understands the concept of a balanced rig.
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