What video camera to get for my sister?

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What video camera and underwater casing should I get my sister for her baby shower?

Need:

1. Under $2000 total for underwater casing and video camera
2. Will be used for baby/family videos, african safaris where strong zoom capabilities for wildlife is needed, diving, and good stabilization for bumpy boat rides videos of wakeboarding

3. Have separate still photos camera so stills are unimportant.
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4. both casing and camera must be lightweight or my sister will end up not taking it with her on vacations.

My sister is completely against gopro (though it probably doesn't match her criteria anyway). Do I need to get her lights or anything for the camera? I'm a newbie diver so don't know about what accessories are required.

Thanks.
 
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All the "traditional" housings in that price range, Ikelite, Equinox, Amphibico, TopDawg etc. are pretty heavy - and bulky. Most in the 8-12 lb. range since they partially compensate for the volume of air trapped inside the housing with increased weight.

A good option might be one of the Canon models in their proprietary WP-V4 housing - Canon U.S.A. : Consumer : WP-V4 Waterproof Case
B&H has it for $479 currently: Canon WP-V4 Waterproof Case 6122B002 B&H Photo Video It's also 2.7lbs.

The cameras that fit it are the:
Vixia HF MF500 ($539)
Vixia HF MF50 ($649)
Vixia HF MF52 ($749).

Note that only these 3 models work in the housing. The chief differences afaik are the amount of onboard vs. removable flash memory and the 2 better models have built-in WiFi. All three have both optical and electronic image stabilization for the wakeboarding. They're all pretty small also.

The housing has some limitations - 130' depth rating and more limited controls. It does have all the needed stuff, on/off, zoom/tele, photo/video, but when the camera is in the case you can only see but not access the LCD touch screen. It is however lightweight and since it's molded around those specific cameras - pretty compact. Obviously a good solution for wakeboarding also.

My buddy shoots a previous model, I've seen the video, he gets excellent results. The camera also has an u/w mode pre-set but you have to set it before the camera is sealed in the housing - the results were a little weak though. Since the housing does have a threaded glass port, you can also buy a standard color correcting red filter that can be removed u/w when needed. They're about $60. If your sister is mostly shooting above 60' or so in bright water, you don't need lights, just the filter. Below that or in darker areas - or for macro work - she might want light(s).

One light option is the L&M Sola 1200 Video light, it's a lot of light for $699. Their $89 tray option should work with the Canon housing as it has a standard tripod mount but verify that with Bluewater. Light & Motion Sola 1200 Video Light | Bluewater Photo & Video It's a very small light also.

Optimally you want two for coverage but that pushes your budget. And one will work for macro etc - she'll just have to position it and watch the shadows. The Sola has a flood beam option which helps.

If you can squeeze $200 more out of the budget, there's also the Sola 2000 - same basic light just more output. There are also less expensive options - I'm somewhat partial to L&M as they have a good reputation. Another option might be: I-Torch Video Pro4 Light | Bluewater Photo & Video at $499 - IDK much about them. Optical Ocean Sales also has some other affordable options - note that anything that says focus/modeling light is not bright enough for video. Focus & Video Lights - Optical Ocean Sales Underwater Photo - 800-359-1295!

Since the safari videos will be shot at distance, maybe get a $25+ Monopod for stability. They're collapsible and travel well. I'm a big fan of optical zoom - the Canon's are 10X - for longer range shots vs. electronic zoom.
 
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Thanks a lot. Your post was really informative. I've decided to get my sister a compact digital zoom camera instead. The only reason I was leaning toward a camcorder was because I wanted to get really high zoom. There are digital cameras available that can do greater than 10x optical zoom while still having light cases so I think I'll do that instead.
 
Most good videographers use the zoom feature rarely underwater. It is always best to get closer to the subject rather than zoom through 25ft of water and particulates. The only time I ever use the zoom is when I am shooting a close up shot, zoom in, start to film and slowly zoom out.
Zoom is one of the least important features, better to have manual white balance control.
Steve
 
I think the OP was looking for the high zoom ratio for shooting topside wildlife, but you are right re: U/W use.
 
I don't know. But I would be happy with whichever setup you decide on. My address is ......
 
I think the OP was looking for the high zoom ratio for shooting topside wildlife, but you are right re: U/W use.

Yeah, I wanted the zoom for the top side. I just realized that a digital camera will go temporarily blurry while zooming at the same time as video recording. I'm sure she'll find that unacceptable with her baby.

Boy, there really isn't one camera/video camera for everything is there (at least not when your as picky as me). I might have to sacrifice something.
 
Yeah, I wanted the zoom for the top side. I just realized that a digital camera will go temporarily blurry while zooming at the same time as video recording. I'm sure she'll find that unacceptable with her baby.

Boy, there really isn't one camera/video camera for everything is there (at least not when your as picky as me). I might have to sacrifice something.


best buy lady didn't know what she was talking about. You can stay in focus while zooming in with many digital cameras including the sony hx30v which I'm hoping will come out with an underwater case soon. If it does, I'll get that for my sister. If not, I'll get the sony hx9v. Thanks a lot everyone.
 
Having once worked in a hi end electronics store which primarily sold only esoteric stereo, I learned and have had confirmed numerous times that most salesmen at box stores like Best Buy, Fryes and the like have little product knowledge, have often misinterpreted certain specs and generally do not know what they are talking about. They are interested in selling the product that gives them the greatest commission. There are so many ways to steer a customer into buying a lesser grade product over a superior one, it is laughable. Especially so when selling speakers.
Steve
PS. If you intend on going on an African safari, forget about the monopod. When you get there, buy a pound of rice or beans and use that as a stabilizing bag. Then donate it to one of the tribesmen when your safari is complete.
 

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