What type of training...

[boulderjohn]

Team of two or team of three?

Team of two.

 

[boulderjohn]

I vote we put the question and the answers, "Traveler and Lucy," in TDI exams to illustrate your point.

This is only slightly off topic, but...

Isn't it interesting that we all know that bit of pure trivia while we forget so many far more important things? Why on earth does that little tidbit stick in our minds?

I even know how tall that horse was, and I believe it is all from something I read one time in elementary school.

 

[rjack321]

A left post non-fixable on an OOA diver? wth

 

[Dive-aholic]

Maybe, maybe not.

Let me give you a real world example (real as in this actually happened, not as in it was a "real dive").

During a class, as a team of three we were swimming along waiting for 'stuff to start happening.' One of the first instances was a non-fixable right post failure. In a real life situation, that would - to me - be a dive turner. However, I knew that what the instructor wanted to see was whether we as a team were able to keep track of failures (e.g. when one team mate goes OOG, he knows not to go to the guy who's right post is shut down).

I made the conscious decision to act as I would in a real situation. I signaled turn around, but the instructor stopped me and indicated that we were to keep going.

It's stuff like 'how many failures can you take' that throw me for a loop. I can take a lot, but in real life I'd thumb it WAY earlier.

Know what I mean?

This is one of the reasons cave instructors throw scenarios at students only during the exit portion of the dive. It's already been turned and we're already heading out.

Looking at non-overhead courses, such as the ones you've experienced, it takes a different approach. I do, on occasion, teach courses in OW and I can still get my students to forget they're in a class.

 

[Peter Guy]

A few comments from Mexico:

a. John, THANK YOU for your posts. This person believes they are very informative.

b. As I have thought before, after reading what some of you have written, it is clear to me that I really have no business putting my head underwater. I should just stick to riding horses -- and definitely I shouldn't be doing any more 20 foot reef dives!

c. I'm just very glad there are people like you who are willing to help those of us who know so little.

 

[Kevrumbo]

...is the right type of training?

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Which ends up going back to the title -- What type of training for diving is the right kind of training?

Just musing and looking for your thoughts on the questions.

For the record, I'm not sure there is any "right kind of training" -- but I do think there is a wrong kind and THAT is when the student doesn't learn from the course and/or comes out in worse shape than when he started.

"The far object of a training system is to prepare . . .mentally [in order] to cope with the unusual and unexpected as if it were the altogether normal and give him poise in a situation where all else is in disequilibrium." --S.L.A. Marshall, Men Against Fire.

"The challenge of education is not to prepare a person for success, but to prepare him for failure." --Admiral James Stockdale.