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I am interviewing service shops. I would appreciate you help in improving my list of questions. Thanks, JL

I am interviewing dive shops to assess their capability and competency to have my regulators (Apeks ATX100, Apeks ATX50 Octopus, Dive Rite depth gauge) serviced under lifetime warranty from Aqua Lung. Please fill in the following questionnaire:

Do you service the Apeks ATX100 regulator, Apeks ATX50 Octopus, and Dive Rite depth gauge?

Are you familiar with servicing a 7ft long hose setup?
I
f so, approximately how many long hose setup with the above regulators do you service annually?

Are you familiar with an upside-down first stage configuration?

How many Apeks service returns from customers do you have per year?

When was the last training your technician received from Apeks?

Do you use complete kits from Apeks?

How much does the service cost?

What is the turn around?

Can you accept transactions with mail order, telephone or the Internet or must I go to your store?

Will you provide a detailed list of the work performed, parts used and testing results (see below)?

Do you offer a one year warranty on your work?

Will you do all the work yourself or ship my regulator to another repair shop?


EQUIPMENT
Do you use a heated ultrasonic cleaner?

How often do you change the cleaning solution?

Do you have a flow bench with chatter-free flow testing?

TEST AND REPORTS

Will you test the regulators at depth of 7 ATA?

Will you certify the cracking effort using a Magnehelic gauge and give the precision of the measurement?

Will you certify the intermediate pressure measured ±1% of the full swing (±3psi)?

Will you give a graph that measure the amount of demand effort required to generate any specific flow rate up to 90liters per minute?

Will you check and measure the IP recovery?

Will you dynamically measure and report the Venturi Performance, including identifying at what flow level “venture crossover” occurs?

Will you dynamically measure and report any decrease/increase in intermediate pressure while the regulator is under flow conditions?

Will you evaluate the flow performance of the first stage depending on supply pressure and certify the ability of the first stage to deliver air flow volume over the entire tank pressure spectrum (50psi to 5000psi)?

Will you measure and report the dynamic intermediate pressure (i.e. IP during flow)?
If so, can you produce a graph at flows up to 90 liters per minute?

Will you check, measure and report the flow restriction characteristics of the long low pressure hose? This test is usually done by first checking a standard length hose and then comparing those results with the data produced by flowing the extra long hose.

Will you measure and report the flow through disconnect couplers and Schrader valve connectors?

Will you measure and report the flow characteristics of "preferred ports" and compare with the flow through standard ports to evaluate the difference between the output levels?

Will you perform a vacuum test for an hour on all second stages?

Will you inspect the hoses for cuts, holes or splits, particularly on the ends?

Will you report all obvious problems?
 
homo maris:
I am interviewing service shops. I would appreciate you help in improving my list of questions. Thanks, JL

I am interviewing dive shops to assess their capability and competency to have my regulators (Apeks ATX100, Apeks ATX50 Octopus, Dive Rite depth gauge) serviced under lifetime warranty from Aqua Lung. Please fill in the following questionnaire:

Do you service the Apeks ATX100 regulator, Apeks ATX50 Octopus, and Dive Rite depth gauge?

Are you familiar with servicing a 7ft long hose setup?
I
f so, approximately how many long hose setup with the above regulators do you service annually?

Are you familiar with an upside-down first stage configuration? ( I would rather ask if they note how mine is configured and will I get it back the same way)

How many Apeks service returns from customers do you have per year? (Just all returns on serviced gear)
When was the last training your technician received from Apeks?

Do you use complete kits from Apeks?

How much does the service cost?

What is the turn around?

Can you accept transactions with mail order, telephone or the Internet or must I go to your store? (They won't be allowed to with Aqualung per their dealer agreement. Don't punish them for that.)
Will you provide a detailed list of the work performed, parts used and testing results (see below)?

Do you offer a one year warranty on your work?

Will you do all the work yourself or ship my regulator to another repair shop?


EQUIPMENT
Do you use a heated ultrasonic cleaner?

How often do you change the cleaning solution?

Do you have a flow bench with chatter-free flow testing?

TEST AND REPORTS

Will you test the regulators at depth of 7 ATA? (The ability to do this is VERY RARE. It is also beyond the ability of more than a few "manufacters" in the US (think those that really are just distributers)
Will you certify the cracking effort using a Magnehelic gauge and give the precision of the measurement?

Will you certify the intermediate pressure measured ±1% of the full swing (±3psi)?

Will you give a graph that measure the amount of demand effort required to generate any specific flow rate up to 90liters per minute? ( Good info, but a little more than needed)
Will you check and measure the IP recovery?

Will you dynamically measure and report the Venturi Performance, including identifying at what flow level “venture crossover” occurs?( Good info, but a little more than needed)
Will you dynamically measure and report any decrease/increase in intermediate pressure while the regulator is under flow conditions?( Good info, but a little more than needed)
Will you evaluate the flow performance of the first stage depending on supply pressure and certify the ability of the first stage to deliver air flow volume over the entire tank pressure spectrum (50psi to 5000psi)? (normally at low and high, not everywhere in between, they are checking that your reg is well serviced not doing a review or design...)
Will you measure and report the dynamic intermediate pressure (i.e. IP during flow)?
If so, can you produce a graph at flows up to 90 liters per minute? ( Good info, but a little more than needed)Will you check, measure and report the flow restriction characteristics of the long low pressure hose? This test is usually done by first checking a standard length hose and then comparing those results with the data produced by flowing the extra long hose. (if this is a real concern for you don't use the long hose!;) Seriously there will be a very small decrese in performance but nothing a diver will notice and if you want the long hose you need to live with it. For instance on my backgas I have my long hose on a side port, not the end port on my PX3, the performance on the end port is higher (Bob Hollis and I were talking abouth this two days ago...) but I like the routing more the way I have it. )Will you measure and report the flow through disconnect couplers and Schrader valve connectors? (Not going to happen. I would like to see more attention paid to the Lp QD schrader valve but the failure rate is VERY low because it isn't cycled as much as a scrader used in a inflator or first stage(genesis reg. only)
Will you measure and report the flow characteristics of "preferred ports" and compare with the flow through standard ports to evaluate the difference between the output levels? (Again, they aren't doing a review or designing the reg. If this is important to you contact the manuf. who will be able to ID the higher flow ports and then you can choose which reg to purchase depending on your needs)
Will you perform a vacuum test for an hour on all second stages? (an hour is pretty long and many don't have the machine ($250 at Scubatools) This is great but not as critical as a good standard vacuum test)
Will you inspect the hoses for cuts, holes or splits, particularly on the ends?

Will you report all obvious problems?

Hope this helps. Some of your points are great but just a little "over the top" for repair. There is a happy medium between a "better than average" job and "the guy should be designing regs for a living".

Best,

Chris
 
Chris:

Excellent comments. I will make it clear that I do not expect answers to all.
I still want the interview to be as comprehensive as possible so that I can have repair facilities diferenciated over a wide spectrum (easier to decide). Hence the "over the top" aspect in order to find out the happy medium you mention.

Thanks,
JL
 
Bump as it seems there are a few active threads on this whole subject right now.
 

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