Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[lamont]

http://www.thescubastop.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=257&sort=1&cat=all&page=1

I believe that's mer from over on TDS, and while it looks like her single tank rig could use a 6' hose to fit a little better, I'm not about to argue with her... I'm definitely not going to be calling her a 'tech poser' anytime soon either...

 

[OE2X]

Taken further: there will be different reactions in the same situation with the same equipment. Then what do you do? There's a limit to what any equipment can offer. As was said, why not a 10'? Instructor 101.

JimC echoed an earlier post by Detroitdiver in response to your question about 10' hoses. I think that says it all in answering that.

Taken a step further: those of us who dive mainly with buddies of the same configuration minimize the reaction variables in an OOA situation because we are completely familiar with the setup. Real Life 101.

One thing to add: This thread is not so much about the merits of similar configured divers so much as it is about the advantages of using a long hose for rec diving vs. the standard trained configuration.

While it would be advantagious for us all to be configured the same way (whatever that standard may be) that won't happen.

 

[MASS-Diver]

I believe that's mer from over on TDS, and while it looks like her single tank rig could use a 6' hose to fit a little better, I'm not about to argue with her... I'm definitely not going to be calling her a 'tech poser' anytime soon either...

Mer is on SB as well. Having met and dove with her, I can say she is a top-notch, extremely square away diver. In that shot, they may have just been doing drills and she simply has not stowed her hose yet. Again, she's a really good diver.

If any wants to take cheap shots at her, she is a moderator on www.ne-ue.com go and do it there.

 

[Rick Inman]

I only dive with buddies that I have trained with and that dive the same rig that I do. I would not dive with someone whose rig I was not familiar. I'm not really interested in standardizing myself with poorly trained divers, all that matters to me is that my buddy and I are diving optimal rigs - once you practice sharing gas a few times, the advantages of a long hose are very, very clear.

I don't blame ya. I dive every Tuesday PM (or Sat), with a random group of divers. The pre-dive briefing often sounds like this:

"OK, as to OOA issues, Dave here dives with a pony as his backup gas so he'll hand you the octo which he keeps in his BC pocket. Frank has an AirII, so he'll hand you his primary. Larry has an octo in the big yeller ball there, and Jim has his rebreather plus an AirII and a pony. I've got the long hose primary I'll hand off. Everyone, take a good look at your buddies configuration and try to remember it if you have an OOA issue."

What a mess! The only issue we've had has been free flows, and so far everyone's been calm enough to just signal OOA and then wait for his buddy to hand him something. Standardization would be nice, but I don't see it happening, and I'm not willing to limit the people I dive with based on their equipment choices (up to a point). But that's just me. Better divers than I were kind enough to dive with me even when I dived with junk gear from the White Elephant Sport & Toy Liquidators. From them I learned much and am grateful.

 

[ABQ]

JimC echoed an earlier post by Detroitdiver in response to your question about 10' hoses. I think that says it all in answering that.

Taken a step further: those of us who dive mainly with buddies of the same configuration minimize the reaction variables in an OOA situation because we are completely familiar with the setup. Real Life 101.

Real Life 501D, Graduate Level; must have taken 201, 301C, 412L:

I can dive with thousands of divers, have, and will.

 

[OE2X]

Real Life 501D, Graduate Level; must have taken 201, 301C, 412L:

I can dive with thousands of divers, have, and will.

Good for you and I applaud you for diving with so many people.

I appologize about the real life comment. It is more a reflection that the more similarly configured you are to your buddy, the less likely that issues will come up. This is common sense...

Read Rick Inman's comments about pre dive planning with the folks that he dives with. As I said earlier it would best if there were a standard.

 

[StSomewhere]

ABQ...it's called muscle memory.
An OOA situation is not the time for a diver to think "which config am I using today...do I donate what I'm breathing or do I have an octopus today?". Wrong answer, if you dive the long hose in the caves, then you dive it in ow.

So the tech diver's push for OW divers using the long hose is for the tech divers benefit?

 

[JeffG]

So the tech diver's push for OW divers using the long hose is for the tech divers benefit?

Given what you quoted...thats a pretty big stretch

 

[novadiver]

Real Life 501D, Graduate Level; must have taken 201, 301C, 412L:

I can dive with thousands of divers, have, and will.

I'm thinking some of these people need " reading comprehension" 101, to take this much info out of context just boggles the mind,

why don't the long hose posers put a 100 foot hose on a spool, that way the reg can be ripped from your mouth , the ooa diver can bolt to the surface, and you can continue the dive in piece and quiet. after all, that would be easier

 

[jonnythan]

why don't the long hose posers put a 100 foot hose on a spool, that way the reg can be ripped from your mouth , the ooa diver can bolt to the surface, and you can continue the dive in piece and quiet. after all, that would be easier

Why don't you?

We're still waiting for the answer to OE2X's question you told us you would post on the other board.