Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[novadiver]

Way to avoid my question. Anyhow, just because a guy isn't fluent in the way of DIR/hog rig body wraps and technical setups doesn't mean he is a bad instructor. Many people that are great Open Water and recreational divers/instructors don't feel the need to bother themselves with technical rigs (Such as yourself). There are more than one way to do things. I prefer 7' hoses for the benefits that they pose. Some people just like to shoot down things that they don't use. I don't look down on people because they don't use a 7' hose. I however find the 7' fits my diving style, and I don't find it a hassle or a hazard to dive with. Besides, down the road I plan on moving into the realm of technical diving, I might as well get used to long hoses now.

Assuming that I didn't take a class from a qualified instructor, lol. Assumptions have killed many people, assume nothing..

Matt

Matt, your just not getting with the program here. I do dive with a long hose, just not on my deco bottle. I've been trained by some of the very best instructors in the world. Non of them post here. If your getting an education off of SB , then your instructor could quite possibly be the VILLAGE IDIOT.

If you are heading for tech training then by all means rig and practice tech techniques. But please learn those techniques from a mentor or instructor. because your assuming THESE divers know what there talking about.( referance to your last statement about assumtions)

 

[jonnythan]

Nova has stated his opinions about humanity in general in other threads and in other places.. he solo dives, and the way he makes it sound he doesn't like people in general. I think that he doesn't have as much contact with other divers as most of us, and assumes the rest of us don't either... and that we're all learning everything we know from Scubaboard, and going out and doing it on our own.

This is the only good explanation I can think of of why he keeps yelling about it

 

[lamont]

but the lesson is ( know were your regs are at all times) and be able to find them when you need them

exactly.

useful for everyone, not just single file exits from caves while sharing gas. glad you've decided to agree with me that the long hose has much to offer in situations beyond those of where it was developed.

 

[novadiver]

exactly.

useful for everyone, not just single file exits from caves while sharing gas. glad you've decided to agree with me that the long hose has much to offer in situations beyond those of where it was developed.

Nice misquote lamont,I was talking about the back up reg on a neckless and the possibility of it freeflowing behind a diver if it's not on a neckless . better luck next time

Bottom line. most divers have no use for a long hose. and by wearing one, it makes them look like posers

 

[matt_unique]

Since I'm a newbie, I am still only doing recreational dives. I’m curious how do you route such a long hose and keep it from dragging. I have a standard octo hose and I keep the second stage clipped to my BC. Seems to me that a longer hose would hang down.

This is a reply to a post earlier in this thread but another means to route the long hose is right beside your primary (or right) tank with bungy. Similar to the way you "flake" rope for the mariners out there. You have two bungies on the top and bottom of your tank and you route the excess hose into these bungies. As with most any technique, there are advantages and disadvantages. The advantage, compared to the body wrap technique, is the hose is totally out of the way and not laying on your body and other gear. It is deployed clean and easy without dipping your head or any movement other than hand off or pull off.

The disadvantage is you can't restow it in the bungies (obviously). If you were in a situation where you had to deploy then restow you would need to body wrap it for the duration of the dive. Other than a class situation the liklihood of having to share air then your buddy resolving the out of air situation is low. In most cases, if you have to deploy your reg for buddy breathing you and your buddy are heading to the surface or stop 1.

I have used both and I personally prefer the bungy wrap.

--Matt

 

[jonnythan]

I have used both and I personally prefer the bungy wrap.

--Matt

Do you practice OOA's?

 

[lamont]

Nice misquote lamont,I was talking about the back up reg on a neckless and the possibility of it freeflowing behind a diver if it's not on a neckless . better luck next time

Bottom line. most divers have no use for a long hose. and by wearing one, it makes them look like posers

Why doesn't the cognitive dissonance in your brain make your head explode?

 

[Dryglove]

Nova has stated his opinions about humanity in general in other threads and in other places.. he solo dives, and the way he makes it sound he doesn't like people in general. I think that he doesn't have as much contact with other divers as most of us, and assumes the rest of us don't either... and that we're all learning everything we know from Scubaboard, and going out and doing it on our own.

This is the only good explanation I can think of of why he keeps yelling about it

Nova kinda strikes me as the "been there, done that" type of diver. In his off time from diving he probably confers with president bush on a regular basis and has one of those secret black boxes under his bed. Dont dare ask what is in the box cause he could tell you, but he would have to kill you first.

I really like my long hose set up and have been trained on it but not by the best instructors in the world....oh well, my loss

 

[novadiver]

Nova has stated his opinions about humanity in general in other threads and in other places.. he solo dives, and the way he makes it sound he doesn't like people in general. I think that he doesn't have as much contact with other divers as most of us, and assumes the rest of us don't either... and that we're all learning everything we know from Scubaboard, and going out and doing it on our own.

This is the only good explanation I can think of of why he keeps yelling about it

The humanity part. that's good
The solo part. that's true
Doesn't like people in gen. I'm good with that.
No contact with other divers. That's sweet
all learning from SB and trying it out on our own. That's a fact

The only thing you left out was my pet peave about StRoKeS giving bad advice

 

[matt_unique]

Do you practice OOA's?

Yes