Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[OE2X]

This is the reason to research a little history on the long hose, In short, the primary long hose is used for ooa divers in no viz. that way the donor diver can feel the ooa diver feeling for his head and be ready to donate gas. second, the long hose is used to bring two divers through a restriction when they cannot swim side by side. as you can see, an ooa diver in good viz can use a short hose to breath from because training dictates that that diver grab your shoulder harness for the ascent. In less your diving with a buddy with seven foot arms the long hose is not needed or you are diving beyond your cert level.

If you get your training from a " fashion show training org." you probably don't know the reasons behind the gear. At that point, your at risk.

I'm guessing you don't use a long hose. FYI - as stated earlier, swiming to an anchor line, in current, ascending while looking at your buddy is all easier while on a 7' hose. You don't need to be in a confined space or a silt out to be effective with a long hose. Also most of us throw in a loop on the hose when swiming side by side, thus shortening the distance between divers.

Personally speaking in an OOA recreational situation I don't my buddy to have to be right on top of me. If one of us has to blow a bag, then a little distance is a good thing.

 

[jonnythan]

I'm guessing you don't use a long hose. FYI - as stated earlier, swiming to an anchor line, in current, ascending while looking at your buddy is all easier while on a 7' hose. You don't need to be in a confined space or a silt out to be effective with a long hose. Also most of us throw in a loop on the hose when swiming side by side, thus shortening the distance between divers.

Personally speaking in an OOA recreational situation I don't my buddy to have to be right on top of me. If one of us has to blow a bag, then a little distance is a good thing.

As a solo diver, what use would Nova have for a long hose?

Anyway, I agree. After using long and standard hoses in recreational diving, the long hose is clearly superior in use for a number of reasons. I will never go back.

 

[novadiver]

I'm guessing you don't use a long hose. FYI - as stated earlier, swiming to an anchor line, in current, ascending while looking at your buddy is all easier while on a 7' hose. You don't need to be in a confined space or a silt out to be effective with a long hose. Also most of us throw in a loop on the hose when swiming side by side, thus shortening the distance between divers.

Personally speaking in an OOA recreational situation I don't my buddy to have to be right on top of me. If one of us has to blow a bag, then a little distance is a good thing.

I do use a long hose, and I was trained in the use of the long hose. I just don't recommend them to new divers. routed wrong , it becomes a danger. and the comfort of someone that doesn't know how to manage gas is not my concern. A paniced diver on a 7 footer puts their feet at your head in an ascent. think about a diver kicking like hell to the surface. it's your head taking the beating, but that's not a bad thing for some on this board. LOL

 

[novadiver]

As a solo diver, what use would Nova have for a long hose?

Anyway, I agree. After using long and standard hoses in recreational diving, the long hose is clearly superior in use for a number of reasons. I will never go back.

I guess you would never take your pack off and push it through a restriction jonny. the other reasons can't be posted because of the hazards of that kind of diving

 

[Corigan]

Just to chime in here, I am a new diver as I have just been certified in the past 5 months. I have around 35 dives or so, and that's not too bad since I've missed a few big trips due to sickness and it's winter around here (Diving in 43 degree Water). I started with a 7' hose from the beginning. It's really quite simple to route properly and even easier to donate/re-wrap. I had no problems with these skills and used a 7' in my BOW. It made reg retrieval and all my OOA drills extremely easy. Using a 7' hose becomes like second nature and doesn't take long to get used to.

Matt

 

[Rick Inman]

A paniced diver on a 7 footer puts their feet at your head in an ascent. think about a diver kicking like hell to the surface. it's your head taking the beating...

You don't HAVE to give all 7' to the diver. You can still grab the OOA diver's harness if you wish, but with the 7' you have a choice. No one said it is impossible to make a safe ascent while sharing air with the short hose. It's just that the long hose gives you more options, and with a non-paniced diver, safety stops are much easier and safer when you're not trying to do a slow-dance with your buddy the whole time.

 

[mart1]

The next time I go warm water diving, I will use a long hose...

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Next decision: will you breathe from your long hose?

mart

 

[novadiver]

Just to chime in here, I am a new diver as I have just been certified in the past 5 months. I have around 35 dives or so, and that's not too bad since I've missed a few big trips due to sickness and it's winter around here (Diving in 43 degree Water). I started with a 7' hose from the beginning. It's really quite simple to route properly and even easier to donate/re-wrap. I had no problems with these skills and used a 7' in my BOW. It made reg retrieval and all my OOA drills extremely easy. Using a 7' hose becomes like second nature and doesn't take long to get used to.

Matt

that would be the differance. you were trained to us and stow it. you didn't get advice from SB and then route it wrong, making it a danger to you and everyone around you. Point number two: a paniced dive comes from the high left and strips the reg from your mouth and pulls. BOOM your SOL with a paniced diver choking and dragging you to the surface.

 

[Brian1968]

If I've got a diver with me who's still panicking even with my air source in his mouth and kicking like hell for the surface then the last place I want him is anywhere near me especially with a death grip on me. I'll take the "insurance distance" of the long hose. That way if he's in danger of rocketing us both to the surface I have a much better chance of controlling my own ascent even if it comes down to having to yank the reg out of his mouth by the hose.

 

[OE2X]

The next time I go warm water diving, I will use a long hose...

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Next decision: will you breathe from your long hose?

mart

Welcome to the board.

No, I'll breath from my 2nd stage conected to the long hose.