Using A Long Hose Isn't Just For Tech Divers

[jeffinhburg]

In practicing OOA situations, it occurred to me that there might be some benefit to having enough hose for the donor to get behind the OOA diver. I was thinking in terms of a couple more feet of hose. I also noted the dive shop sells long yellow octo hoses, but I thought having my hose long, rather than the octo hose (since a real OOA diver not practicing with me would grab my reg out of my mouth) would make more sense. How should a person properly route a 5 foot hose? It seems to me that it would make a big loop to get snagged on stuff. Does a 5 foot hose make any sense, or should I just try to find someone who can teach the 7 foot hose? We have a DM here who uses one all the time, so that wouldn't be too tough.

 

[htn123]

Originally Posted by MikeFerrara
those are octo's? I always thought they were drag ancors to slow em down in a current.

There was another thread where a guy wanted to tether his 10yo while diving. I just had a though

Hey wedivebc,

Your comment is very childish and unprofessional.
I am the one asking about the tether thing. I was asking if that is a wise choice, I did not WANTED to do that, that is why I posted the question on the board.
If you have no constructive comments, you don't need to make any comment.
I guess you think you are a hot shot or something to make comments like so.
How would you like if someone comments about draging your child behind as an anchor. If that's what your insensitive comment is about.
Next time when you make insensitive comments as such, think before you do it, or maybe you just don't have that capability to do so....
Charles.

 

[jonnythan]

I think that when you're posting here, and you're an instructor, it's probably easy to forget that the big "I'm a SCUBA Instructor" tag gets attached to everything you post.

 

[lamont]

In practicing OOA situations, it occurred to me that there might be some benefit to having enough hose for the donor to get behind the OOA diver. I was thinking in terms of a couple more feet of hose.

The long hose comes in useful for dealing with buoyancy issues -- you've got 7 ft that an OOA diver can get above you which should give them enough time to realize "hey my gas supply is down there, i need to go down!" and dump gas.

And that is speaking from experience of being on the wrong end of an OOA and having exactly that happen...

 

[matt_unique]

I think that when you're posting here, and you're an instructor, it's probably easy to forget that the big "I'm a SCUBA Instructor" tag gets attached to everything you post.

Which means what?

 

[MASS-Diver]

I think that when you're posting here, and you're an instructor, it's probably easy to forget that the big "I'm a SCUBA Instructor" tag gets attached to everything you post.

I think what is meant by this comment is that some instructors are so used to teaching OW students (who view them as Gods) that they aren't really used to being questioned by anyone and when they venture into a place like SB, where there are tons of very experinced people, all of sudden they are shocked that anyone would question what they, the hotshot DM has been teaching for years.

I know some very instructors, but also know some that most of their time diving in 20' of water with OW students and they don't realize how their skills stack up with experinced divers.

 

[jonnythan]

Which means what?

Which means that wedivebc's comments are presented as a SCUBA professional's comments when posting here. Mocking another poster for an idea he had regarding diving safely while being presented as a professional opinion is indeed unprofessional. I was trying to defend wedivebc by telling htn123 that it can probably be easy for wedivebc to forget that his comments are presented as the comments of a diving professional.

 

[htn123]

Which means that wedivebc's comments are presented as a SCUBA professional's comments when posting here. Mocking another poster for an idea he had regarding diving safely while being presented as a professional opinion is indeed unprofessional. I was trying to defend wedivebc by telling htn123 that it can probably be easy for wedivebc to forget that his comments are presented as the comments of a diving professional.

Jonnythan,
I do agreed with you on "....Mocking another poster for an idea he had regarding diving safely while being presented as a professional opinion is indeed unprofessional....."
I thought this board is for everyone regarless of level of "professional" to help each other to build a better diving community, not to mock another person's question.
Charles.

 

[jonnythan]

I thought this board is for everyone regarless of level of "professional" to help each other to build a better diving community, not to mock another person's question.
Charles.

It is.. but it is a large internet board, and so you will generally have the entire spectrum of people. While the staff here does a good job of keeping things pretty tidy, you can't be too draconian and just get rid of people who are maybe just a little bit rude.

There is a lot of good information here and it really is a good community.. so stick around. There's a lot to learn if you filter out a little bit of the noise

 

[OE2X]

FWIW - I've met Wedivebc and stayed at his house. I cannot say that I've had the occasion to dive with him since he was sick with a head cold. I can tell you that IMHO - he is very experienced. I'm also reasonably sure that he is a very competent instructor as well.

My guess is that his comment was flippant and a sign of irritation over some of the posture that others (perhaps including myself) have taken in this thread. Was the comment uncalled for - yes. Does Dave have a holier than thou attitude as an instructor - I don't believe so. He and his wife are very warm and humorous people and I don't think this remark is a reflection of his personality or instructor capabilities.