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hey guys, i signed up for my scuba open water class, just about finished my academic portion. I had some trouble in the pool..i was more nervous than i thought. I am not sure if it's my instructor or me, but most likely me...i get really nervous when i walk into the pool class..i am ok breathing w. the regulator but not yet entirely liking it too much cause my mouth gets dry..but i'm ok w. it. I think i'm ok as long as i breathe w the regulator and i'm streamlining...but because it is a class that is teaching you worse case scenarios so you are prepared, these tasks are freaking me out. I can't do the mask removal, flood mask..i'm not comfortable with it. I want to know what are your of your guys' experiences...did you freak out and get over it? So what happened was, i left class early on 2nd pool day but they say i can take private lessons to make up what i've missed and i probably missed a lot already. And the original plan was to go to bali and get my PADI there, do the open water dives there, the academic&pool in so cal. Now i am disappointed. I've been wanting to do this for a while but my bf says that he thks i'm not ready based on how i've reacted in class. He thinks we should go practice..so i guess the plan now is to practice in the pool w. our snorkels just blowing water out and flood mask... I need motivation or some insight..thanks!!
 
Hey smtp,

no worries. You've come to the right place.

Most of us were not born as a fish. Some take more time than others. Big deal.

The idea is to have fun.

Just one thing. Get certified because YOU want to, not someone else.

Mask clearing wasn't my favourite skill either but I got used to it.

I'm sure there will be other and better answers to your question but no worries, you'll do fine. It took my wife longer to master the skills. Again, no big deal.

Point is, she mastered them.

Have fun. :)
 
"so i guess the plan now is to practice in the pool w. our snorkels just blowing water out and flood mask... I need motivation or some insight..thanks!!"

Confide in your instructor. See what they say to help. See what they do. Get your cert here at home. Don't waste Bali time on a class.

If that doesn't make it, switch instructors.

I like your pool idea. Shows high motivation. This is so easy even I can do it. You too.

The motivation? See the pretty fish. Watch Finding Nemo again. Root for the mean menacing SCUBA diver this time.
 
Hi smtp,

Welcome to scubaboard. You came to the right place for help.

At first, I was a little freaked out too as regards to the mask flooding and removal skills. One of the things my instructors did for us to help with this was to have us go to the shallow end of the pool, without our masks, and have us go just under the surface with our regs in our mouths, and get used to breathing without any mask at all. If at first you freak, just pull your head out of the water, collect yourself and try again. But remember, your in shallow, water in a pool, with a friend. That should quell a lot of the anxiety.

Your friend is right about practice. Practice, practice and then practice some more. You'll start to feel more comfortable real soon. Your half way there anyway.

Believe me, it's well worth a little effort.
 
It happens to lots of students. Get your snokel and mask - no fins, and go practice breathing, mask clearing , etc.

Then put on your fins and practice some more.

Don't drown. :D
 
Breathing underwater is something that is not normal, you have to get over that first. Practicing in a pool with your mask off may help. In order to be a safe diver there are some things that you must learn and be comfortable with. Give it some time and work on the problems as they come up. If your instructor says that you are not ready, heed that warning. Most instructors know what they are talking about and in open water is no place to freak out
 
thanks you all for your quick input.....i think i need some private lessons.. i felt bad that i made the others wait on me..i believe it was partially what got me more nervous, with everyone standing along waiting... My instructor is a young guy and i dont thk he had much experience in the sense of how to teach others, i am sure he knows his stuff and i know i was probably nervous and he thought i just needed to relax. He was probably right. When i left early on day 2 of pool, he was asking why i shot up to the surface so often. Practically every task i was doing, i would be uncomfortable and my reaction was to shoot up to the surface. So he was not pleased..he gave me a look like "why did you do that for" and all i'm thking is, well, it was not comfortable! I have called the shop and talked to a diff instructor asking for a private lesson w. them. I am a bit disappointed only because my initial plan was to take the contained water and academic portion done here in so cal...then do the open water dives in Bali...Because Bali is so much nicer than diving here in Catalina!! The water is warmer, clearer...And i'm probably forcing myself at this point, but last night i was really motivated to conquer my fears and practice in the pool every night, hoping to make up what i've missed in the pool by Friday or Saturday (all day) and still do my open water dives in Bali. That's ideally what i hope for but i know that my nerves are calmer away from the pool. My bf did point out that i didnt seem very comfortable. Well, he himself is doing it for me and said it wasn't as easy for him either. I can't help feel discouraged by his comment and the instructor's look when he said why did i do that for? But he did say that i was streamlining fine..kicking fins fine...breathing on regulator fine...

I probably shouldn't rush these things huh? It will take time and if i dont do my dives in Bali...i should still look at it like i need extra time and work on it and be comfortable , instead rush through it and freak out in the ocean as Lake Mead Tony pointed out..
 
Hi smtp

Learning to dive is an adaptation, you are adapting to an eviornment where we don't belong. Some anxiety and aprehension is not uncommon as you learn to survive underwater. I chose these words not to scare you but to help you see what you are learning to do. Everyone's adaptation is unique. The experience of my wife and myself were like night and day. I took to it easilly, it took her one night to trust the regulator in the deep end. By the end of the second night in the pool she proclaimed that she could do this and was going to like it. By the end of the 4th night she had caught up on all of the exercises and was doing them well. We then jumped in with the next class for 2 more nights of pool time where we drilled and dove together working as a buddy team. We then did our checkout dives without incident.

*Don't let anybody rush you, your are unique.
*Make sure you want to do this. It's not uncommon for 1 half of a couple to be more obsessed with diving but do not do this JUST for him.
*The dry mouth part will vary with diver and specific gear. Be well hydrated before you dive. The warm pool isn't helping any. When you shop for gear latter ask about models that try to minimize dry mouth. You can always irrigate you mouth in this manner; Think of a favorite food, wait for saliva to flow, remove your regulator and close your mouth, swish the saliva with your tounge,swallow, replace your regulator. Voila a miost mouth and a regulator R&R drill. It really works!

The mask part will come with time but there are things you can do to.

Clean your bathtub or get some time in a quiet pool. Honestly your nice warm bathtub is best the first time. Run some very comfortable warm water. Get in the tub with your mask and snorkel, belly down, knees at the drain end.

Put your face under and breathe with the snorkel, take your time, the water will make you mellow, get happy. You can decide if you need a spotter. Relax, concentrate on your breathing. count your fingers, notice the magnification of the water just lay there and dream of the sights you will see as a diver.

Now blow a little air into your mask through your nose and lift the skirt away to let just a little water in. Enough that you can see it in the mask and so your nostrils are wet. Keep breathing, get accustomed to the senssation. Add some more. Eventually flood the mask and you will see that you can still breathe.

When you are comfortable breathing with an entirely wet face open an eye for an instant, then another, take your time and eventually you will be gazzing into the water and be one with it. This haunted me since I was a kid at day camp. I could never count the counselors fingers or find the darned plates on the bottom, now I like mask off time.

Now make sure that your snorkel is on so it will blow at the wall side of the tub. With your mask flooded (do what you want with your eyes) face forward, hold your mask so the skirt stays firmly on your forhead but there is only light pressure at the bottom. Take a good breath and blow gently into the mask with your nose. Open your eyes to see if your mask cleared. Repeat and refine as needed. Your face, mask and preference may lead you to a finer technique. If at all possibe go repeat all of this in a pool before you get near a tank, regulator or BC.

You are right in noting that most of the pool work is crisis management and that you need to know that stuff. Too often there is little time left to teach students how to dive! The good news is that once certified a conscientous student can enjoy the attention of a kind mentor, further instruction and just plain practice in the art of diving.

If at all possible I'd suggest getting certified in your home water so you are equipped to be a competent local diver. Frequent diving is the key to being safe capable and happy. Your instructor should know whan you are ready. When you go in the ocean for the first time, trepidation and excitement are normal, true fear should be behind you.

So if this is something you want to do just be patient with yourself and demand the same of those around you. You can do this and if you hit any other roadblocks come back here and ask.

Have fun,
Pete



smtp:
hey guys, i signed up for my scuba open water class, just about finished my academic portion. I had some trouble in the pool..i was more nervous than i thought. I am not sure if it's my instructor or me, but most likely me...i get really nervous when i walk into the pool class..i am ok breathing w. the regulator but not yet entirely liking it too much cause my mouth gets dry..but i'm ok w. it. I think i'm ok as long as i breathe w the regulator and i'm streamlining...but because it is a class that is teaching you worse case scenarios so you are prepared, these tasks are freaking me out. I can't do the mask removal, flood mask..i'm not comfortable with it. I want to know what are your of your guys' experiences...did you freak out and get over it? So what happened was, i left class early on 2nd pool day but they say i can take private lessons to make up what i've missed and i probably missed a lot already. And the original plan was to go to bali and get my PADI there, do the open water dives there, the academic&pool in so cal. Now i am disappointed. I've been wanting to do this for a while but my bf says that he thks i'm not ready based on how i've reacted in class. He thinks we should go practice..so i guess the plan now is to practice in the pool w. our snorkels just blowing water out and flood mask... I need motivation or some insight..thanks!!
 
I'm always amazed at the amount of replies a post gets! You started this thread a little over an hour ago and look at the responses!

In answer to your question, believe me, we have all been there in one form or another. If we didn't have trouble with clearing our mask, we had trouble with bouyancy, or a hundred other things. We were all newbees at one time. The trick is to learn your skills and practice them over your diving lifetime. Keep 'em sharp. There is NO reason to ever panic underwater and bolt to the surface. NONE.

I recomend that you do your open water dives locally and not on vacation, because:
1) Why ruin vacation time doing your O/W certs when you could be doing "real" diving.
2) You'll come home from vacation and still want to dive, so dive locally. You become a better diver by ------ diving. It's hard to get 50, 100 or 1000 dives under your belt if you only dive a few dives once a year on vacation.
3) You'll feel more "at ease" diving with an Instructor, LDS, and fellow students that you know.
4) Maybe you'll buy some diving "stuff" because you are diving more locally now, you now have an investment in your sport. End result, you dive more because it's silly to buy all of this "stuff" and not use it. Right?

Oh, and buy the way ---- HAVE FUN. It's all new to you. Get your C-card, get in a few dives, and look back on this and think "what was I worried about!"
 
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Hi smtp,

Welcome to scubaboard. You came to the right place for help.

At first, I was a little freaked out too as regards to the mask flooding and removal skills. One of the things my instructors did for us to help with this was to have us go to the shallow end of the pool, without our masks, and have us go just under the surface with our regs in our mouths, and get used to breathing without any mask at all. If at first you freak, just pull your head out of the water, collect yourself and try again. But remember, your in shallow, water in a pool, with a friend. That should quell a lot of the anxiety.

Your friend is right about practice. Practice, practice and then practice some more. You'll start to feel more comfortable real soon. Your half way there anyway.

Believe me, it's well worth a little effort.


That's the thing, i felt like my instructor didn't do any of this because the students in the class were pretty comfortable in the waters..
 

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