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I live way out in the burbs. I got out of the city back in 2008. I lived on the northwest side, far from the bad areas back then. Anyone who intentionally chooses to live in the city now needs to have their head examined. If I’m even driving through on the freeway, I’m armed. Like that does much good. There were three separate freeway shootings yesterday alone.

That's kind of my point. I'd imagine there are safe areas and not-so-safe areas of Cancun/Tulum/PDC and those that live there know the difference. The same thing applies to where I live and dive and to just about anywhere these days it seems.
 
That's kind of my point. I'd imagine there are safe areas and not-so-safe areas of Cancun/Tulum/PDC and those that live there know the difference. The same thing applies to where I live and dive and to just about anywhere these days it seems.

The nice areas in the city aren’t so safe anymore. The ne’er-do-wells from the bad neighborhoods (not considered politically correct to call it the ghetto anymore) are doing their bad stuff in the good neighborhoods. Car jackings in the Gold Coast and Lincoln Park. Real estate goes for millions in those neighborhoods.

Tourism is apparently down in Chicago or was. Good. Maybe that will send a message to the politicians more than anything.
 
...but I guarantee you that the response will be swift.

For years now the Mx government has had the Mx marines backing up the Mx Fed Police because they cant trust the Mx Fed police. That is not good and does not bode well for the future of Riviera Maya, or a "swift response".

This is beyond "random violence".
 
Assuming things get back to normal and the drug trade heads back west, and that in mean time the entire peninsula does not become the biological equivalent of "Love Canal", the various government entities need to implement a "Poo Poo" tax on the tourists. Either that or make them take their waste back home with them.
 
Don't you live in Chicago? Do you consider it safe? If you do, that is probably the same way that those who live in Tulum can still consider it safe.

Chicago 2.7 million people, Tulum Mx 47,000,
 
Chicago 2.7 million people, Tulum Mx 47,000,
In Sh*tcago, the politicians are corrupt, CPD, not so much. In MX, sounds like the cops are pretty corrupt. How much do they get from the cartels?
 
In Sh*tcago, the politicians are corrupt, CPD, not so much. In MX, sounds like the cops are pretty corrupt. How much do they get from the cartels?
The corruption in the us cities is pure corruption, in Mexico it’s a mix of survival vs small time corruption, a CPD who takes a bribe risks his job, retirement benefits etc. if he refuses a bribe probably little risk, in Mexico refusing a bribe is almost the same as suicide.
 
The corruption in the us cities is pure corruption, in Mexico it’s a mix of survival vs small time corruption, a CPD who takes a bribe risks his job, retirement benefits etc. if he refuses a bribe probably little risk, in Mexico refusing a bribe is almost the same as suicide.
I had a friend that became a diplomat in about 2010 or so. They get hazard pay for going to the most dangerous places, so it is a pretty accurate list. He figured all the "best paying" spots would be in the middle east, and for the most part he was right. The top spot for most dangerous embassy in the world? Juarez, Mexico. This was when the cartels were getting super violent, killing cops, sheriffs, judges, kidnapping their families, etc. The "bribes" are "here take this money or we'll take everything from you."

I was hoping that when the few cartel crimes started in QR a few years ago that the Feds would bring down the hammer for the Yucatan to prevent it from going the same way as the border. That didn't happen.
 
I had a friend that became a diplomat in about 2010 or so. They get hazard pay for going to the most dangerous places, so it is a pretty accurate list. He figured all the "best paying" spots would be in the middle east, and for the most part he was right. The top spot for most dangerous embassy in the world? Juarez, Mexico. This was when the cartels were getting super violent, killing cops, sheriffs, judges, kidnapping their families, etc. The "bribes" are "here take this money or we'll take everything from you."

I was hoping that when the few cartel crimes started in QR a few years ago that the Feds would bring down the hammer for the Yucatan to prevent it from going the same way as the border. That didn't happen.
It’s why Mexico is off of my travel list, I could see to creeping changes the last time I was in PDC 3 or 4 years ago.
 
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