The Tec - Rec Split: Who Did It?

[Jax]

Nevertheless, I think that, if the agencies are going to issue solo cards, they should probably separate out rec solo from tech solo.

May I inquire as to why you think there should be two different solo certs?

 

[Walter]

It's not a theory. The c-card tells us the person can dive without supervision. That is its only purpose.

 

[Jax]

It's not a theory. The c-card tells us the person can dive without supervision. That is its only purpose.

Really? I thought a cert card meant that at some time in a person's life, that person had sucessfully demonstrated a required skill in open water. Once.

 

[fire_diver]

1910.401(a)(2)

“This standard applies to diving and related support operations conducted in connection with all types of work and employments..”

OSHA does not use the term commercial or sport, nor does it use the term "technical>" It does have definitions for recreational and scientific because of the exemptions it provides in those settings.

The instructor at the LDS is employed in a commercial dive operation that is subject to OSHA rules regarding dive operations conducted in connection with all types of work and employment, unless the operation meets the OSHA exemptions. Having to meeting the terms of the exemption is a form of regulation.

• Part Number: 1910
• Part Title: Occupational Safety and Health Standards
• Subpart: T
• Subpart Title: Commercial Diving Operations
• Standard Number: 1910.401
• Title: Scope and application.

Look, right there in the title, "commercial diving operations".

This has absolutely nothing to do with HOW DIVERS DIVE!! Read your quote below...

The earliest date on the OSHA regs regarding diving is July 22, 1977. Whether the 130 foot limit that is found in the regs exempting recreational instruction from other provisions of the regs was in the 1977 version or a subsequent amendment isn’t clear.

You brought OSHA into the discusion on SPORT DIVING. It doesn't matter if your dive "rec" or dive "tech". If you are diving for personal pleasure, it is SPORT DIVING, not COMMERCIAL.

 

[ianr33]

Nevertheless, I think that, if the agencies are going to issue solo cards, they should probably separate out rec solo from tech solo.

Surely one tech solo card is not enough ?

You would need:

Advanced Nitrox solo
Trimix solo
Advanced Trimix solo
Intro and Full cave solo
Rebreather solo
Night trimix sidemount cave drysuit solo etc etc etc.

IMHO divers at that level can figure it out for themselves.

 

[Blackwood]

Surely one tech solo card is not enough ?

You would need:

Advanced Nitrox solo
Trimix solo
Advanced Trimix solo
Intro and Full cave solo
Rebreather solo
Night trimix sidemount cave drysuit solo etc etc etc.

IMHO divers at that level can figure it out for themselves.

You forgot normoxic solo

 

[Jax]

Surely one tech solo card is not enough ?

You would need:

Advanced Nitrox solo
Trimix solo
Advanced Trimix solo
Intro and Full cave solo
Rebreather solo
Night trimix sidemount cave drysuit solo etc etc etc.

IMHO divers at that level can figure it out for themselves.

Ian, by your reasoning, we would need a cert card to dive naked.

 

[drrich2]

Naked may be the one specialty dive where solo is preferred (by others), albeit not for safety reasons.

I think someone posted about a nude night dive in Bonaire. I've been on a couple of night dives in Bonaire, and if I stumbled upon something like that it'd be quite a shock.

Richard.

 

[FritzCat66]

:rofl: But in some ways I think only the freedivers can truly dive naked.

Not being tech, I don't really know if or why tech divers would want a solo card. Besides, it sounds like one agency's existing solo card is rec (SDI), while another one is tech already (ANDI).

The original point of bringing up solo in the context of this thread was simply that it's an area where the line between rec & tech is a little fuzzy; all this discussion really just plays into that.

Q.E.D.

 

[ianr33]

Ian, by your reasoning, we would need a cert card to dive naked.

Just send me a photo of yourself diving naked and a $100 bill. I'll mail out a card for you.