The Problem with Science as a Substitute

[almitywife]

Thanks Thal - it may be just Neareas and you but eventually it lowers the tone of SB all together and members not so familiar with your personalities will think such behaviour is acceptable or condoned

cheers - off to make lunch

 

[Thalassamania]

Thanks Thal - it may be just Neareas and you but eventually it lowers the tone of SB all together and members not so familiar with your personalities will think such behaviour is acceptable or condoned

cheers - off to make lunch

This it the pub, is it not? We try hard to confine such behavior to where it is appreciated, if not acceptable and condoned.

 

[almitywife]

This it the pub, is it not? ....

actually it is not!

otherwise i wouldnt even bother - this is Community Forums

the Pub is another two levels down (surface interval and then the pub)

would OP like it moved to the pub??

 

[Thalassamania]

There I go again, missing the loo and peeing in the soup instead. I apologize, profusely. This does not belong here ... I'm way out of line. If no one objects a move to the pub would be greatly appreciated.

 

[AXL72]

Pub pub pub pub pub.

I really do not care what the talmud says, sorry.

Just as I do not care what modern christian fundamentalists say either.

That's cool. We don't care what you say, either.

 

[Noboundaries]

I said in my original post that I always find discussions like this entertaining. Here's the reason why. People believe they are 100% correct for whatever position they choose to adopt. People have been debating the issues in this thread in one form or another for thousands of years. They've shaped and reshaped countless cultures around this topic. At no time has anyone been proven right or wrong, but the debris of their history is familiar to anyone who can read or study with an open mind.

A person's awareness of their knowledge will take them down one of two paths. One path, the more common choice, is the belief that their knowledge is perfect, right, and complete. The other path, the less common choice, involves an acceptance that their knowledge is infantile compared to the scope of the knowledge yet to be revealed. Religion follows the first path; science the second. Philosophy acknowledges both and generally attempts to find the truth in it all.

The bottom line is that in a thousand years what we believe now as a race of beings will be examined and criticized by people far more advanced than ourselves. The debris of our beliefs will be quite evident to them. The first path followers will still exist in a thousand years, blindly utilizing the scientific marvels created by the second path followers while the philosophers still try to figure out who is on the path of truth. That's been the process for the length of man's recorded history and there's no reason to believe it will change.

 

[nereas]

It's just neareas and me, I rather doubt either of us took much offense or raised any sweat at all.

Thal is a friend of mine, with whom I enjoy debating logically.

Normally Thal and I agree on most scuba-related topics, by and large.

I was guessing that Thal was having a whole bunch of umbrella drinks under the Hawai'ian sun, and therefore he forgot he was a scientist (these guys&gals are normally fact-oriented and not ad-hominem-oriented) and thought instead that he was Irish or something like that.

That is why I stay out of pubs. (No offense to Irish. Just that most pubs are Irish, and not my cup of tea.)

Let's keep the thread here, where ad hominem (name calling) is still vorboten.

Thanks AlmityW, it is a good thing to remind posters here that TOS does not tolerate name calling. It is a game immature children play in the sandbox.

Brain death, now that is another story, and it can happen at any time to anyone.

 

[nereas]

...People believe they are 100% correct for whatever position they choose to adopt. ...

That works fine, all the way up to the point where their inner souls (a philosophical issue oft debated by the ancient Greek philosophers up through modern times as well) float up to the Pearly Gates, and Saint Peter pulls out his ring of keys and opens his Book Of Life (a religious issue).

Financially speaking, I would recommend hedging one's bets in the here and now (a practical issue of conservatism).

To wit, those who rely on prayer should also work like everything depends on themselves alone, because god seems to help those who help themselves.

And those who do not belive in any god or gods should do a good deed or two each day, just in case they are wrong. The old saying goes, to keep your words soft and sweet in case you have to eat them.

 

[almitywife]

morning boys... for now i will leave this in Community Forums because i hate moving the problem children threads to the Pub just for an easy answer/result

i enjoyed the tone of the earlier posts here and look forward to their return

cheers and off to make brekkie

 

[redacted]

And those who do not belive in any god or gods should do a good deed or two each day, just in case they are wrong.

Sounds very similar to " You better be good or you will get nothing but coal in your stocking." Philosophically speaking, if good behavior is motivated by the threats, are the long and short term rewards the same as for those with naturally good behavior?