Sidemount and helmets in open water

[Razorista]

Met someone while traveling once who owned derelict buildings (and also was a warm water diver).
He did not like a picture of me wearing a diving helmet in front of a concrete wall at all.
('Why would you need someting like that if you had not broken into something off limits!').

Had to prove to him that the building I was diving in the picture was open to the public.

 

[The Chairman]

Also that I know several very small caves myself from childhood, but know I could not enter them with diving equipment without someone noticing.

And neither should you without getting the requisite training.

A Deceptively Easy Way to Die​

 

[Bennno]

Tell me, which dry cave (that has diveable areas relevant to the discussion) can you enter with a cave cert in Germany?
Do you know its official name? Where it is located?

Razor, nobody is gonna give you any names or locations on the internet or even in person because you are not a caver or cave diver.
What I will tell you though is: There are a bunch of caving clubs all over Germany very much like the NSS in the States. Those guys go into caves all the time, duh. Even though there is mostly dry cave and sumps, there is exploration going on, even in SM . You just don't know about any of this stuff because those guys don't have a youtube channels. If you would make an effort to listen to people, you could have learned a lot in last years. There are even major caves not to far from where you live.

As far as I know there are no 'publicly known' German sidemount cave explorers diving in Germany

For the third time: Not true. They are just not on youtube and you actually have to talk to people to find out. And here's a little hint, the 'real' cave explorers are not the once bragging, they are low-key guys, for the most part.

 

[Bennno]

I am a bit angry that Blautopf for example would be an interesting lake to dive, but is completely of limits because of the cave.

And why do you think that is? I'll tell you why, because there are too many idiots that think they are expert divers and try to kill themselves... people that refuse to get proper training and don't build experience over more than a couple of years.

 

[Razorista]

Those who died in Blautopf where mostly expert divers @Bennno

 

[Razorista]

....And here's a little hint, the 'real' cave explorers are not the once bragging, they are low-key guys, for the most part.

Yes, I see that you are not one of those.

And what do you misunderstand about the term: 'publicly known'??

 

[Bennno]

Those who died in Blautopf where mostly expert divers @Bennno

Again, not true. A bunch of untrained divers died in there before the Blautops was closed in the 80s.
You make some many claims... can you not at least google something for 5 minutes before posting?

Are you going to admit now that you were wrong about caves in Germany? Let me guess, no.
Now you wanna discuss what 'publicly known' means... have you looked it up? I mean, you haven't looked up any of the stuff you're claiming here.

 

[Razorista]

What's your problem with simple terms?
Like 'mostly' for example...
Seems you are just some stupid troll without a clue.

 

[Bennno]

I can tell you still haven't looked anything up, shocking.

 

[Razorista]

You seem to be unable to understand the concept of on topic posts, aren't you @Bennno?